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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    What has changed? Is North Korea now a better place to live for its people and less a threat to world security?
    We're not sure about the first one or the second.
    She means that it's a better place because a madman who oppressed his people, his neighbors, and countries around the world
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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    People like Kim jong il, adolf hitler, mao tse tung, pol pot or vladimir lenin need not personally wrong someone to be offensive to the senses of humanity.

    The world becomes a better place whenever any tyrant or communist dies__The higher the rank of the dead communist, the greater the benefit to the world.
    maybe ,the world would be a better place if all capitalist tyrants died some americans need much more knowledge about our world....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    maybe ,the world would be a better place if all capitalist tyrants died some americans need much more knowledge about our world....
    I'm sure all capitalists are tyrants and that anybody not capitalist and is anti-US is an angel
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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by E-M View Post
    Calling this guy an anti-imperialist is a joke. Ask the people of Tibet how anti-imperialist NK's friend China is. Being anti-U.S. is not automatic anti-imperialism, especially when it makes so much sense for them to ally with China anyways.

    The whole anti-imperialist movement is shamed when people try to include NK as part of it. Remember that we are against the U.S. only because we are for the better forms of government that the U.S. has historically ensured would not succeed. There is nothing about NK anyone should be for.
    in fact ı dont like any dictators, and never support these regimes,either,but all I do is criticizing the capitalist propagandas against independent regimes in the world.yesterday,che was the enemy of US,now al-Qaida or kim jong ,it doesnt matter.....


    south korean ,partly you are right,but if this issue is related to being anti american,it means there is a real problem.ı think nobody has to support the politics of other countries(they dont have to support their own countries' politics)..and it comes to the conclusion that some americans dont like this man because he was anti american, do these people like saudi kings?do they have a problem with those fake mullahs?

    no,but why???
    Last edited by Medusa; 12-20-11 at 10:04 AM.

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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    in fact ı dont like any dictators, and never support these regimes,either,but all I do is criticizing the capitalist propagandas against independent regimes in the world.yesterday,che was the enemy of US,now al-Qaida or kim jong ,it doesnt matter.....
    So you think that dictators and terrorist organizations are actually all real-to-good people, that they're just misrepresented by US propaganda?
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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Don't be too euphoric. His son could run amok anytime.

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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Don't be too euphoric. His son could run amok anytime.
    The thing people don't seems to get is that Kim-Jong-Il was not the only problem. Of course, he had a huge part in the sustaining of that system, but just because one important person died doesn't means that the whole system will fail. Did the Soviet Union fall down when Lenin died? Or with Stalin, Khrushev, Brezhnev, Andropov, or Chernenko?
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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    The last sentence is plain out wrong. North Korean propaganda is very powerful, and many of those people do actually love their leader.
    It's been pounded into their heads, 24-7, since the moment of their birth.

    Communism can only survive under the protection of a police state,

    which controls everything including the flow of information.(propaganda)
    When a crime is ignored ~ it becomes flagrant;
    When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic:

    No Amnesty No Exception

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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    The thing people don't seems to get is that Kim-Jong-Il was not the only problem. Of course, he had a huge part in the sustaining of that system, but just because one important person died doesn't means that the whole system will fail. Did the Soviet Union fall down when Lenin died? Or with Stalin, Khrushev, Brezhnev, Andropov, or Chernenko?
    Ok, you being a korean you know best.

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    Re: Kim Jong Il Dies

    Do you know any better?
    "The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all" - Joan Robinson
    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" - Winston Churchill

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