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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Then I guess that's Obama's position also since he is for extending the cuts also?
    You didn't read the link, either the House votes on the compromise or the payroll tax goes UP on 160 million Americans. Double talk won't change that.


    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said in a statement Sunday that Boehner had earlier left it to Senate leaders to come up with a deal, and now was changing his tune after the Senate easily adopted the two-month extension.

    "Neither side got everything they wanted, but we forged a middle ground that passed the Senate by an overwhelming bipartisan majority," Reid said. "If Speaker Boehner refuses to vote on the bipartisan compromise that passed the Senate with 89 votes, Republicans will be forcing a thousand-dollar tax increase on middle class families on January 1st."

    In addition, a Senate Democratic aide told CNN the chances were "zero" that the Senate would reconvene from its holiday recess to continue negotiating with the House on the issue.
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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    As long as anyone in Congress makes a deal to kick the can two months down the road, they are going about this the wrong way...or they are just playing Party politics (I suspect the latter).

    Cudo's to the Tea Party for keeping Boehner on the straight and narrow.

    The Democrats will cave...like they always do when they don't have a solid majority.
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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You didn't read the link, either the House votes on the compromise or the payroll tax goes UP on 160 million Americans. Double talk won't change that.
    Well no, you forgot about the option of renegotiating the bill more to the liking of what Obama wanted.

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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.

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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.
    Don't know what you are talking about. Boehner did "corral" his members to pass the 1 year bill that Obama wanted.

    Most people don't even know that the Senate bill includes a $17 monthly surcharge on all new home loans and refinance loans to pay for this. Is that really a good way to pay for this when the housing market is already in the dump ??

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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.
    Boehner isn't in charge of the Republican Party.

    Obama has made himself in charge of the Democrats. At least, in any comparison between Democrats and Republicans, it's always Obama and the Republicans. Never the Congressional Democrats and the Republicans.

    This is Obama's doing...not the Republican's doing.
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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Don't know what you are talking about. Boehner did "corral" his members to pass the 1 year bill that Obama wanted.

    Most people don't even know that the Senate bill includes a $17 monthly surcharge on all new home loans and refinance loans to pay for this. Is that really a good way to pay for this when the housing market is already in the dump ??
    Think again: Payroll tax cut extension in doubt amid House Republican uproar - The Washington Post

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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Boehner isn't in charge of the Republican Party.

    Obama has made himself in charge of the Democrats. At least, in any comparison between Democrats and Republicans, it's always Obama and the Republicans. Never the Congressional Democrats and the Republicans.

    This is Obama's doing...not the Republican's doing.
    To the contrary, the House Majority Leader is most certainly the leader of House Republicans. That's why the elected him Speaker. Obama is in the unfortunate position of having to negotiate with someone who can't even speak for his own caucus.

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    Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

    Nothing to think about. The House passed a year long bill, the Senate passed a 2 month bill. What's the point of going through all of this again in only two months ??

    Obama said he wants a yearly bill, not a 2 month bill, so that is what the House gave him.

    Why do you think it's a good thing to fight this same fight in only 2 months ??

    Why do you think it's a good thing to add $17 to everyone's house payment to pay for this ??

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