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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

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    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    I like mythology as much as the next guy but your elitism is giving it a bad name.

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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    That is not a very charitable perspective. We should trust to infinite mercy of God.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

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    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    He met his Noodly Master! Ramen!
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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    I agree, it's fun to have a lofty imagination and play pretend.

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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    He met his Noodly Master! Ramen!
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    And here we have two sides of the same coin.

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    Re: Christopher Hitchens Dies dec 15 at age 62

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    That's your opinion, and you could say the same thing about anyone who is good at what they do and makes money at it.

    I've watched many debates, I've read a number of books and read alot of articles involving religion and world politics. Hitchens debates were always the best, his books were among my favorites and his articles were amongst the best I've read. To me that means something and I will miss his contributions.
    The labourer is, doubtless, worthy of his hire, and he was a good entertainer. My point is that he was deliberately reviving what is, for almost all British people, a dead debate, because it was safer to rant on about an archaic religious position than to take on the people who - he knew perfectly well - really had financial and intellectual power. To do what he knew was right would have hurt his pocket. Compare him with another very good journalist, Paul Foot, also an IS member, to get the point.

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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    And here we have two sides of the same coin.
    Lust for perpetual torture of an individual and mockery of religion are two sides of the same coin?

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    Re: Christopher Hitchens Dies dec 15 at age 62

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    What I would give to see his face when he arrived at the gates of hell and realized that he was wrong and nothing can save him from eternal damnation.
    Such desires are earning you a ticket to sit alongside him in the great underneath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    He was, like me, a member of the International Socialism Group. They had a remarkably good education programme: he knew exactly what he was doing when he talked political gobbledegook for money.
    Which political gobbledy-gook? The stuff where he starts thinking independently of the socialist collective? And what's wrong with making money?

    You haven't defended your comparison to Darwin and Huxley. They were about promoting evolutionary theory with God's existence not necessarily at stake, Hitchens primarily focussed on the dangers religion bring to society and geopolitics. Darwin and his bulldog wouldn't have touched that issue, nor does Hitchens go in to great detail about science in his talks or writings.

    No - he would have been opposing imperialism, as he knew very well - so he invented political illiteracies like 'Islamo-fascist' to make believe he was still human.
    He didn't invent that term. And he wasn't human now, cause he broke away from the devout socialist flock? He opposed Islamic imperialism, communist and western imperialism throughout the course of his career.

    I don't understand this. In the country we were brought up in it wasn't an issue: he was doing this stuff because it went down big with Americans and brought in money.
    Since you erroneously compared his anti-religious debating style to Huxley, I would have to say you never read or heard Hitchens speak on the issue (otherwise I'd have to doubt your fantastic education on Darwin) or were going in prepared to dislike what he said because he betrayed your "cause" by arguing for universal human rights.

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    Re: Christopher Hitchens Dies dec 15 at age 62

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Such desires are earning you a ticket to sit alongside him in the great underneath.



    Which political gobbledy-gook? The stuff where he starts thinking independently of the socialist collective? And what's wrong with making money?

    You haven't defended your comparison to Darwin and Huxley. They were about promoting evolutionary theory with God's existence not necessarily at stake, Hitchens primarily focussed on the dangers religion bring to society and geopolitics. Darwin and his bulldog wouldn't have touched that issue, nor does Hitchens go in to great detail about science in his talks or writings.



    He didn't invent that term. And he wasn't human now, cause he broke away from the devout socialist flock? He opposed Islamic imperialism, communist and western imperialism throughout the course of his career.



    Since you erroneously compared his anti-religious debating style to Huxley, I would have to say you never read or heard Hitchens speak on the issue (otherwise I'd have to doubt your fantastic education on Darwin) or were going in prepared to dislike what he said because he betrayed your "cause" by arguing for universal human rights.
    Alas, like most people here, you are ignorant of socialism and know nothing of the International Socialist Group or - I fear - cultural history in the UK, so what exactly do you see as the point of this discussion?
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    Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Lust for perpetual torture of an individual and mockery of religion are two sides of the same coin?
    No.

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