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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income - Yahoo! News

    To me I find this to be shocking. In my opinion, I would think the right is primarily to blame, for catering to the wealthy.

    As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
    I think it's overly simplistic to blame this on the right or the wealthy.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Ever hear of the term: "path of least resistance".. It's human nature (Genrally) to gain the most by doing the least.
    That's certainly one of the assumptions of rationality, idk if it's necessarily human nature.
    Something to consider is that humans value multiple things. Money isn't the only thing that we value. Nor is free time, nor affection, nor a number of things. We balance any number of things. One of the factors involved in balancing these things can be described by the concept called marginal value. That's why as essential as water is to life it's not really valued until the well runs dry and it's hard to get.
    We value, all sorts of intangible things like social approval, a sense of fulfillment, feelings of self-worth, etc.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income - Yahoo! News

    To me I find this to be shocking. In my opinion, I would think the right is primarily to blame, for catering to the wealthy.

    As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
    The "Great Society Program" has transferred trillions from the rich to the poor, and yet we still have problems. I'd say these programs are long term, to blame, not "the right catering to the wealthy".
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

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    Obama promised to address the jobs going overseas. He's done absolutely nothing about it.
    Democrats try to lure jobs back to U.S.
    Senate bill offers payroll-tax breaks, cut in subsidies for outsourcing


    “We’re going to take away the incentives corporations have to send our jobs overseas, and give them powerful new incentives to keep American jobs in America,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in remarks on the Senate floor.

    Introduced last week by Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, the bill also would end subsidies for firms that move facilities abroad."

    Senate Democrats target job outsourcing - MarketWatch
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income
    Wow, 50-50 -- just my luck a close friend of mine is doing well.

    He also thinks everything's politically just great .. again, I guess it's just my luck that I don't.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    The rich and the doing wells and have 5 figure jobs people are totally oblivious of just how bad it is out there....they are immune

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The rich and the doing wells and have 5 figure jobs people are totally oblivious of just how bad it is out there....they are immune
    Minimum wage is a 5-figure job.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why do you say it is the fault of "the Right" - as opposed to the fault of incumbents in Washington? Obama exempted the 6 WalMart heirs from healthcare requirements - those each worth from $14 BILLION to $25 BILLION each. When Obama and the Democrats controlled both sides of Congress - what did they change??? NOTHING.
    Same breaks for the rich. Some special treatments. Same lobbyists. They changed nothing, when they could have changed everything.
    When it comes to insider trading, taking lobbyist money, voting on tax exemptions etc - BOTH sides DO EXACTLY THE SAME VOTING.

    I stopped buying "the big lie" that there is a partisan fight at all. They say opposite words, but end up voting/doing exactly the same at every substantive level. WITH NO DEBATE, BOTH SIDES agree to INCREASE the massive military budget - despite the wars supposedly over - and BOTH voted in that bill to decrease civil rights.

    What is the different between "the left" and "the right" in ANY REAL terms? Other than words? Both sides end up "compromising" to give the other side what they want - meaning the argue furiously in a trillion words - then agree to vote exactly the same, claiming the other side made them do it.

    It's sickening.
    I think this is what we need to be focusing on. It really doesn't have a whole lot to do with left or right. Both sides are on the same payroll. Or at least similar ones. Both sides are bought and paid for. That is the real problem. And it will only go away once money no longer determines elections. A candidate who does not function as an employee for the ones who paid for their campaign finds himself quickly unemployed after the next election.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

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    Give it a rest, your lying. You can convince whomever you'd like of whatever you'd like. It won't make it true.
    Come to my home if you don't believe me. Talk to my friends/family, lets take a nice long walk along the same path I took. I live in Bonners Ferry Idaho. If you seriously wish to come then send me a pm and i'll give you the rest of the info that you will need to contact me once you get here.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Ever hear of the term: "path of least resistance".. It's human nature (Genrally) to gain the most by doing the least. Welfare entitlements corrupt human nature!
    To suggest that people would stay in poverty, voluntarily, because it's easier would be to suggest that a person would leave a spike in their foot if it were easier than pulling it out. Being poor sucks. Being hungry sucks. Worrying about money all the time sucks. It's not easy at all. Living in squalor sucks. Being bored all the time because you have no reason to leave your home sucks. No one would remain in an awful position like that simply because they're lazy. Doing whatever they can and fighting until their last breath is human nature.
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