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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    While I don't doubt you walked to work I think 25 miles is a exaggeration at best on your part. You said your work was 25 miles a way. The average person walks around 3 mph. That's 25/3 = 8.33 hours one way. At that pace there isn't enough hours in the day for you to work 8 hours and then walk for 16.66 hours.

    Even if you did 5 mph, which is a running pace, that's 5 hours. At the running pace, that would mean you jogged to work for 5 hours, worked for 8, then jogged back for 5 and then slept 6 hours. While it's possible (time wise) I don't think you jogged to work. Not even taking into consideration of having to take a shower, eat, etc, it's just not possible.

    So that leaves us to either assume you are lying purposely (I don't know you well enough to say that) or you are exaggerating your miles you had to walk.
    Did no one note the part in my post that said I also thumbed a ride? At night time it was rare that I got a ride, but not as rare during the day.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Depends.
    If those programs encourage changes in behavior, so that more people benefit from "living in poverty" than otherwise.
    Not saying that is happening, but it's not necessarily illogical.
    Ever hear of the term: "path of least resistance".. It's human nature (Genrally) to gain the most by doing the least. Welfare entitlements corrupt human nature! There's an axiom in modern economics about markets. That is, generally speaking, nacro economics says that people are always rational when spending their own money. It's been proven over and over time and again. The term rational economy is a common understanding in market economics. Now, enter entitlements, food stamps, welfare, etc.. We the charitable tax payer infuse the system with a great deal of irrationality. Look at procurment, or material managment (Buyers for short) in any company. Mostly, buyers don't care about where and from whom they purchase equipment, and supplies. Now there's a caveat to this. There was a study done many years ago now that showed that buyers for private sector companies were incentivised to save their respective compnaies money, and did so. Whereas buyers for government and public companies were rarely incentivised and as a result these entities geenrally paid in excess (Forget the actual numbers) of 20% more for the same equipment and supplies. In the mid 2000's most states, and local governments instituted contract purchasing, which gave temporary relief to the tax payer, but this too now has evolved into a sort of monopolizing of the materials procurment industry. Usually state contracts afford the buying entity a certain percentage off list price carried over for one of 3 or even 5 years. The discount is static, however in fast moving and highly constrained markets, a flat-rate discount is often times the least attractive way to approach buying. I understand why government did this. It is because they understood that people in charge of the money didn't care about where and from whom they purchased. Only that their deadliine was met. Afterall, how do you quantify actual and realized savings? So they instituted (As governments often do) a one size fits all policy. It doesn't work, trust me, and governments, and you the tax payer are getting shafted by limiting your buying potential and resources.

    Anyway rant off, but your point is a good one. And so is mine!

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Did no one note the part in my post that said I also thumbed a ride? At night time it was rare that I got a ride, but not as rare during the day.
    Just curious.......So you would have to leave 8 hours early in case you didn't get a ride. What did you do on the days where you were picked up in the first 15 minutes and got to work within 45 minutes. Sit around for 7 hours?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Just curious.......So you would have to leave 8 hours early in case you didn't get a ride. What did you do on the days where you were picked up in the first 15 minutes and got to work within 45 minutes. Sit around for 7 hours?
    Whenever I ever got into town early I would either find a place to nap at or read a book at the library. So yes, basically sit around. I saw no point in getting another job when I lived so far from where the jobs were. At the time my folks lived out in the boondocks.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Give it a rest, your lying. You can convince whomever you'd like of whatever you'd like. It won't make it true.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    On a different note. I used to walk 25 miles to work in the morning ( i did it in less than an hour ) then i walked another 25 miles to another job after working 14 hours at the first job then walked another 25 miles to volunteer at a childrens hospital for another 14 hours a day. I am also a multitrillionaire because of it. I donate over 500 billion to every charity every year. Hooray for E identities!

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You walked 25 miles to work each day? That's like 4 hours each way! Jesus man.
    That would be the equivalent of running a marathon speed wise.
    Whats a average time for an amateur to run a marathon and a half marathon? - Yahoo! Answers
    Walking is closer to 3 mph. So that mean about 12-14 hours walking--6 to 7 hours each way. Add an eight hours shift with a half hour break, we're talking 20 - 23 hours a day just in work and transport back and forth from work. That's a pretty rough schedule.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income - Yahoo! News

    To me I find this to be shocking. In my opinion, I would think the right is primarily to blame, for catering to the wealthy.

    As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Ever hear of the term: "path of least resistance".. It's human nature (Genrally) to gain the most by doing the least. Welfare entitlements corrupt human nature! There's an axiom in modern economics about markets. That is, generally speaking, nacro economics says that people are always rational when spending their own money. It's been proven over and over time and again. The term rational economy is a common understanding in market economics. Now, enter entitlements, food stamps, welfare, etc.. We the charitable tax payer infuse the system with a great deal of irrationality. Look at procurment, or material managment (Buyers for short) in any company. Mostly, buyers don't care about where and from whom they purchase equipment, and supplies. Now there's a caveat to this. There was a study done many years ago now that showed that buyers for private sector companies were incentivised to save their respective compnaies money, and did so. Whereas buyers for government and public companies were rarely incentivised and as a result these entities geenrally paid in excess (Forget the actual numbers) of 20% more for the same equipment and supplies. In the mid 2000's most states, and local governments instituted contract purchasing, which gave temporary relief to the tax payer, but this too now has evolved into a sort of monopolizing of the materials procurment industry. Usually state contracts afford the buying entity a certain percentage off list price carried over for one of 3 or even 5 years. The discount is static, however in fast moving and highly constrained markets, a flat-rate discount is often times the least attractive way to approach buying. I understand why government did this. It is because they understood that people in charge of the money didn't care about where and from whom they purchased. Only that their deadliine was met. Afterall, how do you quantify actual and realized savings? So they instituted (As governments often do) a one size fits all policy. It doesn't work, trust me, and governments, and you the tax payer are getting shafted by limiting your buying potential and resources.

    Anyway rant off, but your point is a good one. And so is mine!

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    So, can we assume that you're on welfare, since it's so great? If not, why not?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What do you mean? I saw you were talking about this earlier, and then when I was checking my emails I saw this story and was like, "what the heck, 1 in 2?"

    There is no "real" Wake. People's ideologies change over time.
    I think you are to be commended for standing up for the poor and the working poor Wake!
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