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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Not necessarily a lie. Not at all.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I call bullsh*t
    Just because you can't imagine yourself doing it doesn't mean that others wouldn't do it. How is walking 25 miles to work, working an 8hr shift and then walking home any different than someone working 3 jobs to get along in life?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    To magnify how much respect I have for that (Kal'Stang's work ethic):

    A few years ago I attained a job as a mover from a family friend. I made it for 6 months, and for that I am actually proud. Generally I'd get to work at about 5:30-7 (7 being the latest and rarest), and I would get home at about 6-9 (6 being the earliest and the rarest). Holy ****, I almost did nothing but work because I was so tired from working that I had no motivation to do anything else on my days off or when I was home. I did make ok money from working 60-80 hours a week, but we got no overtime due to clauses that allow them not pay overtime for interstate work (even though all my work was instate). Not only was it manual labor, but it was manual labor in North Carolina during the summer, but I handled it as best as I could. I am proud that I made it 6 months, actually, because I am far too white collar for that ****.

    So to walk 20+ miles to work every day? **** that, but to anyone willing to do it, a tip of the cap to you.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I have put in 12 hour shifts and seen plenty of people work longer. I have no problem believing that. That guy is getting paid. Thats not quite the same as walking (unpaid) for 8-10 hours a day to work an 8 hour shift.
    Walking 25 miles to get to a job where you do get paid is better than staying at home with the folks and not getting paid period.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    To magnify how much respect I have for that (Kal'Stang's work ethic):

    A few years ago I attained a job as a mover from a family friend. I made it for 6 months, and for that I am actually proud. Generally I'd get to work at about 5:30-7 (7 being the latest and rarest), and I would get home at about 6-9 (6 being the earliest and the latest). Holy ****, I almost did nothing but work because I was so tired from working that I had no motivation to do anything else on my days off or when I was home. I did make ok money from working 60-80 hours a week, but we got no overtime due to clauses that allow them not pay overtime for interstate work (even though all my work was instate). Not only was it manual labor, but it was manual labor in North Carolina during the summer, but I handled it as best as I could. I am proud that I made it 6 months, actually, because I am far too white collar for that ****.

    So to walk 20+ miles to work every day? **** that, but to anyone willing to do it, a tip of the cap to you.


    When I bought my house this year, the mover I used turned out to be the father of a friend I had back in high school.
    He offered me some extra weekend work, if I wanted.
    I entertained that thought for a few minutes, then remembered why I hired them in the first place.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You walked 25 miles to work each day? That's like 4 hours each way! Jesus man.
    No, it's actually like 7 hours even walking at a fast pace. I'll have to throw my BS flag, too.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it's actually like 7 hours even walking at a fast pace. I'll have to throw my BS flag, too.
    Tell ya what, both you and muciti can come visit me and talk to my folks. Ask them about it. Or if you wish we can walk the distance ourselves. It would actually prolly do me some good...i've gotten spoiled and lazy since I got a car.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it's actually like 7 hours even walking at a fast pace. I'll have to throw my BS flag, too.
    It takes 8 hours for marathon walkers to cover 26 miles.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Walking 25 miles to get to a job where you do get paid is better than staying at home with the folks and not getting paid period.
    While I don't doubt you walked to work I think 25 miles is a exaggeration at best on your part. You said your work was 25 miles a way. The average person walks around 3 mph. That's 25/3 = 8.33 hours one way. At that pace there isn't enough hours in the day for you to work 8 hours and then walk for 16.66 hours.

    Even if you did 5 mph, which is a running pace, that's 5 hours. At the running pace, that would mean you jogged to work for 5 hours, worked for 8, then jogged back for 5 and then slept 6 hours. While it's possible (time wise) I don't think you jogged to work. Not even taking into consideration of having to take a shower, eat, etc, it's just not possible.

    So that leaves us to either assume you are lying purposely (I don't know you well enough to say that) or you are exaggerating your miles you had to walk.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    People really are free to do nothing and be poor.

    That takes some acceptance that Americans may not be able to stomach. The solution to that is typically one of two government responses.
    1. welfare state
    2. national planning for education, safety net, job training, etc. (basically welfare state+national agenda that ties it all together)

    Liberals hate the nationalistic one.
    Republicans hate welfare state ( and to a degree nationalistic but neocons know the score)
    Libertarians hate both.

    As such, I don't think you'll see any changes to our current arrangement where people are indeed free to do the bare minimum, and still have a TV, AC, cell phone/internet, and relatively enjoy their life...classified as poor, but I wonder where on the happiness scale.

    People are poor primarily because they don't do anything about it. Unfortunately. Yet I suspect they aren't on the bottom in terms of happiness.
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