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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When I was 20 yrs old I would walk to work sometimes thumbing a ride. My job was 25 miles from where I lived with my folks. I did that for 3 months, part of which was in the winter. Plus I had the swing shift so by the time I got off I had to walk home in the dark...rarely did anyone stop to pick me up. Then I was able to get an apartment in town and a car which widened my ability to get a job.

    Over the years I eventually got married and had two kids, rented a house and things were good. Even got a good tv via tax returns. Then the recession hit. We had to move out and live with my folks for awhile until we got an apartment that was in subsidized housing with some help via a chairty organization. There was only one 3 bedroom apartment available....which happened to be the only one that wasn't subsidized because it was originally the managers apartment. Rent is 750/month. Which we used our tax returns to pay for a years worth of rent. Now we have two cars and the same tv. One car for my wife and one for me so we can do our own respective things.

    This is my life for the last 16 years in its most simplest form. I am poor. Yet my family is provided for. Do I not deserve a tv and 2 cars just because I am poor?
    I've seen both sides of the argument.
    Where there are 2 (or more arguments) for and against the poor being subsidized through various means and what it actually means to be poor.

    I think folks who are poor and generally make the right choices, even with financial hardship, should reward themselves.
    On the other hand, I've seen people who make more than me, make the wrong choices (repeatedly) and get state aid, have no consequences other than more state aid.

    We do have a messed up social system.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    You walked 25 miles to work each day? That's like 4 hours each way! Jesus man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Plus worked an 8hr shift. Yes.
    I call bullsh*t

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I call bullsh*t
    Why?
    I used to ride a bike 10 miles to work each day and put in a 10 hour shift.
    Summer/Winter, rain, snow, etc.

    Some people have the fortitude to do this and others don't.

    Edit: It actually didn't snow during that time.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income - Yahoo! News

    To me I find this to be shocking. In my opinion, I would think the right is primarily to blame, for catering to the wealthy.

    As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
    Why do you say it is the fault of "the Right" - as opposed to the fault of incumbents in Washington? Obama exempted the 6 WalMart heirs from healthcare requirements - those each worth from $14 BILLION to $25 BILLION each. When Obama and the Democrats controlled both sides of Congress - what did they change??? NOTHING.
    Same breaks for the rich. Some special treatments. Same lobbyists. They changed nothing, when they could have changed everything.
    When it comes to insider trading, taking lobbyist money, voting on tax exemptions etc - BOTH sides DO EXACTLY THE SAME VOTING.

    I stopped buying "the big lie" that there is a partisan fight at all. They say opposite words, but end up voting/doing exactly the same at every substantive level. WITH NO DEBATE, BOTH SIDES agree to INCREASE the massive military budget - despite the wars supposedly over - and BOTH voted in that bill to decrease civil rights.

    What is the different between "the left" and "the right" in ANY REAL terms? Other than words? Both sides end up "compromising" to give the other side what they want - meaning the argue furiously in a trillion words - then agree to vote exactly the same, claiming the other side made them do it.

    It's sickening.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Plus worked an 8hr shift. Yes.
    That's ****in' badass man.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why?
    I used to ride a bike 10 miles to work each day and put in a 10 hour shift.
    Summer/Winter, rain, snow, etc.

    Some people have the fortitude to do this and others don't.

    Edit: It actually didn't snow during that time.
    Big difference between riding a bike 10 miles, and walking 25 every day.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    and as for why, because people lie. And that is not believable.

    If you wanna believe that used to skip to work 40 miles one way and it rained every day. And it was -60 degrees. the wind often blew me back to my house multiple times and i had to fend off rabid wolves.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Big difference between riding a bike 10 miles, and walking 25 every day.
    True enough but your body gets used to it.

    One guy at work used to pull double shifts, multiple days a week.
    16 hour days, in a spray booth, with full body coveralls and the temp is usually no less than 85*F, because it's located next to a propane oven.

    People put themselves through all sorts of stuff, to make ends meet.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    and as for why, because people lie. And that is not believable.

    If you wanna believe that used to skip to work 40 miles one way and it rained every day. And it was -60 degrees. the wind often blew me back to my house multiple times and i had to fend off rabid wolves.
    In Kal's defense, I've been interacting with him for a couple of years now and I've yet to see anything from him that would discredit his claim.
    He's pretty consistent and honest.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    One guy at work used to pull double shifts, multiple days a week.
    16 hour days, in a spray booth, with full body coveralls and the temp is usually no less than 85*F, because it's located next to a propane oven.

    I have put in 12 hour shifts and seen plenty of people work longer. I have no problem believing that. That guy is getting paid. Thats not quite the same as walking (unpaid) for 8-10 hours a day to work an 8 hour shift.

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