Page 38 of 70 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast
Results 371 to 380 of 697

Thread: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

  1. #371
    Professor

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Seen
    04-26-13 @ 03:23 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    1,404
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Do you make it a point to only buy from companies that do 100% of their work in america and not out source?
    I look for the made in america label and will pay the extra if there is any, do you?

    Or do you only deem that the rich and the government take steps to fix this issue and you hold no personal responsability at all and should be absolutely free to indulge in the benefits of that which you rail against until such point that someone ELSE actually deals with the problem other than just bitching about it?
    I certainly am not going to wait for the rich to take steps when they invest in companies that move overseas to take advantage of all of the labor, environmental and tax subsidies and tax breaks they get for relocating

    The government is let me see if I have this right,
    that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
    The people to me include all of the people, so our government should be enforcing trade agreements, our people should have an opportunity to come to the plate, when the Chinese pay a 2 to 3 % tariff to import goods into the United States and American products are hit with a 30 to 40% tariff going into China I would say that our government is not supporting the American worker, When our government maintains trade relations with a country that manipulates thier currency then I would say our government is not supporting the American worker.When our government uses tax payer dollars to subsidize the relocation of American manufacting to any foreign country, I would say our government is not supporting the American worker. China subsidises chinese companies allowing them to steal market share making competition impossible for the American worker and our government does what? Nothing!! Now all we need is a why? My answer it's obvious that lobbyist are using thier influence to prevent the government from taking action to protect the people of the United States.

    I vote and support representatives that come the closest to supporting my POV and the republican party votes to kill any bill that would even the playing field giving american workers a chance to be competitive

  2. #372
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Prague, Czech Rep.
    Last Seen
    10-10-12 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    1,880

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I just graduated. Looking for a job right now and I have a line on a few.



    That's such a libertarian comment to make. Again, I just graduated and am looking for a job right now. I had a job, but I decided it might be worth it to quit so I could pass a semester ago when I was taking: Calculus IV, Actuary Math 1, Probability and Stat II, and Differential Equations (plus some Risk Management class). Or is that not good enough for you?

    ****ing libertarians think they know everything about everyone when it comes to money.
    I really don't understand what you are complaining about. You are a student so you are making an investment. You made a conscience decision to forgo short-term income in the interests of increasing your chances of financial success in the future. Your choice, and I hope it's a good one. But you need to suck it up instead of whining that for a supposedly short period you are having difficulties living off your your gf's 40K a year.

    I find it surprising that people often think that the world owes them an education or a living. Maybe it's not progressive enough of me, but then I really don't give a rat's ass.

  3. #373
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You're a boss, man, I don't know how you do it. There is certainly some frivolous spending, and we have a few nice things - for sure. She has a $200 car payment every month and we do have social lives. She has 401k and she is funding it with like 5% of her paycheck or something like that. I just can't imagine how you do it though. Four people on your health plan? Plus rent/mortage? Plus gas, food, utilities, and clothing for the kids. Then any entertainment - and kids almost have to have internet for school these days.

    When I lived in a more rural area and my girlfriend was going to school, I made about $28k a year and I supported us. But we were barely skating by on that and rent was pretty cheap ($550 a month). Just to be real, HG, living on $28k for a family of four is not easy, not possible in all areas, and probably not fun no matter where you live.
    I wasn't easy, at first.
    It took a change in thinking to do it.

    I'm honestly not skating by.
    Like a business, I'm constantly reviewing our expenses looking for ways to save, cut or exchange for less expensive services but with the same or near same quality.
    Household finances should be run like a business, which many people seem to forget.

    My mortgage is $470, I just pay a rounded $500, no tax exemptions at the moment.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

  4. #374
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:55 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,845

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is its that easy perhaps you should open a factory and sit on a board of directors rather than wasting your time on a message board.
    Where in my post asking about factor ownership was the issue of ease?

    Why do you go into the righties barn and bring out yet another strawman? I know - silly question.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  5. #375
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:55 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,845

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post


    In many areas of the world, though perhaps not in yours, unions have the right to shut down the means of production if the owners or theit representatives do now submit to their demands. It's called a "Strike". These "strikes", or the threat of "strikes", have made many of these manufacturing plants, particularly in the auto industry in Detroit, uncompetitive and thus largely unmarketable.



    And now you know why. Union leaders were not thinking long term to the best advantage of their members and, as well, they protected some of their more inept members far too enthusiastically


    Yes, given a level playing field. But the Unions made sure these playing fields were not level. That's why Detroit is a ghetto today and right to work states are doing much better.
    What baloney! I live in southeast Michigan and have done so for over sixty years. Right wingers, corporate shills, toadies and sycophants love picking out Detroit and dissing it as if it is the only thing in this area. Detroit is surrounded by three million people who live in thriving communities that are some of the best places to live in America. There are neighborhoods within Detroit that would surprise you with their loveliness. Unions played a role in building the area -all four million people of it. Unions built the strong middle class in this area and we would be nothing were it not for them.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  6. #376
    Sage
    whysoserious's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Last Seen
    12-29-16 @ 03:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,170

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    I really don't understand what you are complaining about. You are a student so you are making an investment. You made a conscience decision to forgo short-term income in the interests of increasing your chances of financial success in the future. Your choice, and I hope it's a good one. But you need to suck it up instead of whining that for a supposedly short period you are having difficulties living off your your gf's 40K a year.

    I find it surprising that people often think that the world owes them an education or a living. Maybe it's not progressive enough of me, but then I really don't give a rat's ass.
    When the **** did I whine? Libertarians man, you could learn from HG. He is one of the few that pulls of being libertarian and not being condescending when talking about money/finance. I challenge you to look through your idiotic comments there and match them up to anything I have said previously in this thread. You cannot do it, because you are arguing with yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I wasn't easy, at first.
    It took a change in thinking to do it.

    I'm honestly not skating by.
    Like a business, I'm constantly reviewing our expenses looking for ways to save, cut or exchange for less expensive services but with the same or near same quality.
    Household finances should be run like a business, which many people seem to forget.

    My mortgage is $470, I just pay a rounded $500, no tax exemptions at the moment.
    I believe you. I once took a personal finance class that delved into that world, but I do not know if I (or most people) are disciplined enough to do what you do. It requires not only being thrifty, but being somewhat intelligent about things as well, being prepared beforehand (having water with you when you are out to drink or packing your own lunches), and just cutting all frivolous spending to bare essentials. I think most people don't even realize how much money they spend on miscellaneous items, but either way, $30k is not a fantastic salary and I would consider it near the poverty level.
    Last edited by whysoserious; 12-19-11 at 07:39 PM.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

  7. #377
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Does anyone really believe that 1/2 of the US population is poor?

    Yes...............





    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  8. #378
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I discussed that elsewhere.
    You brought it up in this thread and then failed to prove it, but whatever..............
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  9. #379
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,660

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Those thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of shareholders DO NOT make the daily decisions of running those businesses and you darn well know that.
    most businesses aren't owned by millions or tens of thousands. and when management makes a decision the majority of stockholders don't like (or the majority of the shares I should say) there is going to be hell to pay.

    many liberals think that corporations exist to fund leftwing socialist programs with tax dollars and to give people wages whether the company needs their labor or not

    with that sort of confusion there is no wonder that we see so many erroneous postings about corporations

  10. #380
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,660

    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes...............








    wow three pictures prove your BS? NOT

Page 38 of 70 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •