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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    they iz the only ones who can afford to pay more taxes. and more taxes will not influence their spending.
    sorry you miss the point

    affording more-which you really are in no position to say for others-is not a valid argument

    and taxing the rich more will only encourage the middle class to continue to demand more and more spending

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sorry you miss the point

    affording more-which you really are in no position to say for others-is not a valid argument

    and taxing the rich more will only encourage the middle class to continue to demand more and more spending
    For a minute there I thought you were going to point out a weakness in taxing the rich.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    For a minute there I thought you were going to point out a weakness in taxing the rich.
    I did, most people understand that its the middle class that drives most of the spending in this country by the politicians and taxing the rich does nothing to give the middle class a reminder that its desire for more spending is destructive and requires more and more taxes. when the middle class is taxed for what they want, I suspect they will curb their appetite

    of course if one is envious of the rich or sees many of the rich as one's enemies and taxation as a way of punishing the rich, no rational argument against taxation will be persuasive

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sorry you miss the point

    affording more-which you really are in no position to say for others-is not a valid argument

    and taxing the rich more will only encourage the middle class to continue to demand more and more spending
    which you really are in no position to say

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

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    which you really are in no position to say
    silly diversions. do you deny that people who want stuff want more of it when they don't have to pay for it?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ...of course if one is envious of the rich or sees many of the rich as one's enemies and taxation as a way of punishing the rich, no rational argument against taxation will be persuasive
    when the wealthy support & enable the moving of millions of American jobs overseas where they can pay barely liveable wages, some might logically argue that many of the wealthy are indeed the enemy.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    when the wealthy support & enable the moving of millions of American jobs overseas where they can pay barely liveable wages, some might logically argue that many of the wealthy are indeed the enemy.
    what is the purpose of a corporation Thunder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No one is speaking of equality; only equity. You should care as the current trajectory of class bifurcation is not sustainable in a democracy. Either it changes, or the democracy dies (which is what is happening here).

    If you like being a rich man in a poor country, perhaps a relocation to Mexico would be in order. Oh, wait, Mexico is coming here.

    Not even a close comparison. I'd rather have a society that people are free to be mobile in their pursuit of happiness. As far as "equity" and your misconception of what we live in, it's called a representative republic. If you want pure democracy, I suggest Venezuela, or Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    when the wealthy support & enable the moving of millions of American jobs overseas where they can pay barely liveable wages, some might logically argue that many of the wealthy are indeed the enemy.
    Only those that mistakenly believe that those who have attained wealth owe them something.


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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Only those that mistakenly believe that those who have attained wealth owe them something...
    rich folks who make their money directly off of the hard labor of thousands of employees, do owe their workers more than to suddenly ship their jobs to China.

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