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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    There is evidence. Your problem here is argueing classroom theory. Different economic situations call for different solutions.
    No, I don't think so, while I do agree there is no one solution for everywhere. If there is evidence, provide it. Take the Bush tax cuts. They've been in place awhile. Where are the jobs?

    I did ask you three questions.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I don't think so, while I do agree there is no one solution for everywhere. If there is evidence, provide it. Take the Bush tax cuts. They've been in place awhile. Where are the jobs?

    I did ask you three questions.
    There isn't any demand from business to be creating jobs right now. So no, if you enact a business tax cut right now, business's aren't going to hire because they have no need to. As I said earlier, I dismiss the idea of allowing people to keep more of their money only when we feel there is something in it for us though.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    There isn't any demand from business to be creating jobs right now. So no, if you enact a business tax cut right now, business's aren't going to hire because they have no need to. As I said earlier, I dismiss the idea of allowing people to keep more of their money only when we feel there is something in it for us though.
    Your discounting is neither here nor there. The issue I was addressing was whether tax cuts create jobs. The evidence says no. I did also mention that we've appeased business a lot, and they've left anyway, be it for overseas, or to another state dispite being appeased and getting the breaks they asked for. Not every business, but enough to suggest that other factors play a role. So appeasement may not make a difference.

    But the key claim is that there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs. I mean over all as opposed to an absolute, but a starting place to counter act my claim would be to present a clear causal link between a tax cut and jobs created.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is that a long winded way of either refusing to answer an easy question or a concession you have absolutely no clue about why corporations are created?
    It doe not matter to me what you think my plumber will still be in business and does not work for stock options.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    It doe not matter to me what you think my plumber will still be in business and does not work for stock options.
    that's really a strange answer

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your discounting is neither here nor there. The issue I was addressing was whether tax cuts create jobs. The evidence says no. I did also mention that we've appeased business a lot, and they've left anyway, be it for overseas, or to another state dispite being appeased and getting the breaks they asked for. Not every business, but enough to suggest that other factors play a role. So appeasement may not make a difference.
    Opinion noted.

    But the key claim is that there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs. I mean over all as opposed to an absolute, but a starting place to counter act my claim would be to present a clear causal link between a tax cut and jobs created.
    I'll try to be clear. It matters none to me if they do or do not. That is not an arguement for allowing people to keep more of their money IMO.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Opinion noted.



    I'll try to be clear. It matters none to me if they do or do not. That is not an arguement for allowing people to keep more of their money IMO.
    OK, so Im unsure why you jumped in. But ok. Still, why pay any taxes at all?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Opinion noted.



    I'll try to be clear. It matters none to me if they do or do not. That is not an arguement for allowing people to keep more of their money IMO.
    there are no good arguments that exist now for raising taxes on 1 or 2 percent of the population that already pay close to half the federal income tax burden.

    the only possible argument for raising taxes is to provide feedback to those who don't think government costs money and that certainly is not the rich

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    OK, so Im unsure why you jumped in. But ok. Still, why pay any taxes at all?
    There are a few things the government does have to do.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there are no good arguments that exist now for raising taxes on 1 or 2 percent of the population that already pay close to half the federal income tax burden...
    they iz the only ones who can afford to pay more taxes. and more taxes will not influence their spending.

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