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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who cares? I prefer a society where we can have lots of winners rather than one where there is a concerted effort to try to make people "equal"
    So you think providing basic necessities to American citizens is an effort to make them equal? BTW I am still waiting for you to explain why you should not pay more when you use facilities and laws supported by all tax payers.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No one is speaking of equality; only equity. You should care as the current trajectory of class bifurcation is not sustainable in a democracy. Either it changes, or the democracy dies (which is what is happening here).

    If you like being a rich man in a poor country, perhaps a relocation to Mexico would be in order. Oh, wait, Mexico is coming here.
    Excellent points. If one wants a sustainable society in an America that ones children and grandchildren can live in in peace and harmony with others, they better damn well learn to change the attitude which only thinksof SELF above SOCIETY.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    So you think providing basic necessities to American citizens is an effort to make them equal? BTW I am still waiting for you to explain why you should not pay more when you use facilities and laws supported by all tax payers.
    why not stick to what I said rather than what you hoped I said

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Excellent points. If one wants a sustainable society in an America that ones children and grandchildren can live in in peace and harmony with others, they better damn well learn to change the attitude which only thinksof SELF above SOCIETY.
    the rich dems who are creating addiction to government handouts are actively ruining this country so they can win elections and with it get the wealth and power they derive from holding public office

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No one is speaking of equality; only equity. You should care as the current trajectory of class bifurcation is not sustainable in a democracy. Either it changes, or the democracy dies (which is what is happening here).

    If you like being a rich man in a poor country, perhaps a relocation to Mexico would be in order. Oh, wait, Mexico is coming here.
    Think the role of the Federal government should be to "spread the wealth"...?


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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the rich dems who are creating addiction to government handouts are actively ruining this country so they can win elections and with it get the wealth and power they derive from holding public office
    Your so called 'logic' has holes gaping enough to drive an elephant through. If these rich dems are rich why do they need to hold public office to get them wealthy? They do not need to win an election or anything else to get wealthy if they are rich as you claim they are.

    Why don't you tell us how the Great Satan FDR did this and made himself wealthy in the process?
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who cares? I prefer a society where we can have lots of winners rather than one where there is a concerted effort to try to make people "equal"
    You do realize in a real competition, there is only one winner. If winner makes up only 1% of the population, I wouldn't call that lots of winners.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your so called 'logic' has holes gaping enough to drive an elephant through. If these rich dems are rich why do they need to hold public office to get them wealthy? They do not need to win an election or anything else to get wealthy if they are rich as you claim they are.

    Why don't you tell us how the Great Satan FDR did this and made himself wealthy in the process?
    Lets examine some of these wealthy dems

    Bill Clinton-until he left the presidency he never had a job that would make him a millionaire. If he had been just another lawyer in Arkansas, I doubt he would be worth the many millions he is today

    Al Gore's father campaigned as the poor country school teacher. until he left the senate and became a Pawn of Armand Hammer, he never held a job that paid more than 85K a year yet he died a multimillionaire

    How did the Kennedy family get its wealth? through Public office

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do realize in a real competition, there is only one winner. If winner makes up only 1% of the population, I wouldn't call that lots of winners.
    You seem to think that the one percent is frozen in time at one instant. Its like saying there is only one Olympic 100Meter gold medalist in the 2012 games and forgetting all the other games and the winners

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You seem to think that the one percent is frozen in time at one instant. Its like saying there is only one Olympic 100Meter gold medalist in the 2012 games and forgetting all the other games and the winners
    Don't make leaps. You don't do it well.

    Whether number is 1/2 % or 5% or hell, even 10%, that's a small percentage. So there are not a LOT of winners. But that's OK as long as the middle is strong. They see enough good to be comfortable and see a possible rise one day, even if it doesn't actually happen. But destroy the middle class, keep hating the working person, and that gap will be everyone's undoing sooner or later. It's just bad business.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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