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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Strange how it's so concentrated in the blue states.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I find this statement kind of galling:



    Being poor in America, you have little security. Having a car, a roof and a TV (as if they're rare or expensive) is hardly representative of your ability to afford health insurance or provide for yourself or your family in old age. We live in a consumer society filled with cheap electronics. The working poor have ample access to Wiis, as they are affordable. Health insurance, however ...
    In another time, people didn't spend their money on such frivilous things when other needs were more pressing.

    Such is the nature of entitlement, which liberals play to for votes election after election.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Rector isn't what anyone would call an unbiased voice of reason. Nor would anyone call him needy. He likely never was. I don't know, but from what little I can determine he may have been born into wealth and privilege. No matter, I'd like to see is data on poor people and wide screen televisions. I'd venture to say that many people who file for bankruptcy and lose their homes probably keep their largest TV.










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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    In another time, people didn't spend their money on such frivilous things when other needs were more pressing.

    Such is the nature of entitlement, which liberals play to for votes election after election.
    Possibly, but more often, as we see, people didn't have more pressing needs at the time they bought wide screen televisions. I have a good friend who is an electrical engineer who was doing well until they shipped his job to India. He has been scrambling at part-time work every since. Over the last 2 years, he has lost most of what he owned. I can give you more examples if you like. But the point is I think your perspective is myopic and fairly uninformed.










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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Sure, it is better to be poor in the US than in some places. Not sure why some see that as a bad thing. And I can get a wide screen TV much easier than I can get health care or any number of important things.

    Still, given the choice, people would choose wealth over poverty. Not sure why some want to minimalize those in need. Nor do I accept the government is to blame.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Boo, I like your point.

    Is it better to be poor in America, or wealthy in (pick your poison).
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    In another time, people didn't spend their money on such frivilous things when other needs were more pressing.

    Such is the nature of entitlement, which liberals play to for votes election after election.
    What a ridiculous caricature. A roof and a car are luxuries by medeivel standards, sure. But I couldn't maintain my job without my car, and there are no jobs within walking distance. It's one of the barriers of entry in our society, and I'd wager that transportation and housing are the two biggest costs for any middle-income or lower-income family. These are the minimums that people struggle to maintain, not markers of excess as that quote paints them.

    A TV is a luxury, sure, but it's a one-time expense that doesn't even reach the cost of one month of medical coverage for a family. I've known a poor family who saved up and purchased an LCD TV as a family Christmas present. They were on Section 8 housing. I never thought for a second that it was inappropriate for them to do so, and, to me, their need for housing subsidies were obvious -- the family was run by a single mother who worked tirelessly for her two children and who would have never made it without cheap child care provided by a family member and rent help. Their lives were not extravagant, but they did have an apartment, a car and a TV. Shame on them, right?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure, it is better to be poor in the US than in some places. Not sure why some see that as a bad thing. And I can get a wide screen TV much easier than I can get health care or any number of important things.

    Still, given the choice, people would choose wealth over poverty. Not sure why some want to minimalize those in need. Nor do I accept the government is to blame.
    "To blame"? Is to blame also.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    "To blame"? Is to blame also.
    I'm saying government has little control of a lot of things. They have helped the wealthy more than the middle class, and that has it's problems. We would all be better off if government and business wasn't so joined at the hip. But I wouldn't single out one party for that, as both are to blame, and rather equally.

    So, I would not argue you can fix this problem by electing either party.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm saying government has little control of a lot of things. They have helped the wealthy more than the middle class, and that has it's problems. We would all be better off if government and business wasn't so joined at the hip. But I wouldn't single out one party for that, as both are to blame, and rather equally.

    So, I would not argue you can fix this problem by electing either party.
    This is a different arguement. That both parties are largely the same and that both have large groups willing to defend one over the other is not the governments fault, it's ours.
    Last edited by 1Perry; 12-15-11 at 03:47 PM.

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