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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again, your mind reading skills are awesome to behold. It's always good for a laugh when conservatives wax eloquent about what liberals really think.
    We get this from both perspectives and it is really worthless.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    My numbers are wrong?
    As best I can tell, your cionclusions are.

    Remember that when GM is back in the news.
    Which will having nothing to do with your claim. GM has been back in the news often, largely due to poor management from the top and not the worker.


    It wasn't a question. People do not have to prove they are going to do acceptable things in your eyes to keep the money they earned.
    I think that is a diversion from what we're speaking of. As we all contribute to government, the question is why let those most able get the largest break? Or at least larger than the middle class working person. Business and wealthy get a lot of breaks, in many different ways, with a lot of services that are largely paid for by government. So, asking that they contribute to that, more than the middle class is fair. And to do so without getting breaks that leave them paying far less.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income - Yahoo! News

    To me I find this to be shocking. In my opinion, I would think the right is primarily to blame, for catering to the wealthy.

    As they say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
    The right is always going to get blamed for anything perceived as wrong ,in this country by the left, since to do otherwise would be admitting they are wrong , but in this case, the War On Poverty, a decidedly Democrat policy, has spent trillions since Johnson, and today the left is claiming that there are more poor than ever. Isn't it it about time to admit the error and move on to some other plan?

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The right is always going to get blamed for anything perceived as wrong ,in this country by the left, since to do otherwise would be admitting they are wrong , . . . .
    Seems like a pot to kettle thing to me.


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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What?
    $45k where I live is definitely the good end of middle class.
    Total income for a family of four? Keep in mind, that's the highest level of "low income" as well - so anything past that is lower-middle class. My gf makes $40,000 a year and we are barely able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment in Charlotte, NC.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Total income for a family of four? Keep in mind, that's the highest level of "low income" as well - so anything past that is lower-middle class. My gf makes $40,000 a year and we are barely able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment in Charlotte, NC.
    I realize it's way off post, but whysoserious are you out of work? I don't know anything about you (you could be disabled, unemployed, a student, etc.). I'm just curious, because $40,000/year ought to be PLENTY for 2 people in Charlotte to live and save money in Charlotte. If you earn anything, the entire "anything" could go towards investing, saving, etc. The caveat being that you shouldn't be buying new cars (car payments) or have hundreds of dollars a month in cell phone bills. If you have huge medical expenses, that's something different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What?
    $45k where I live is definitely the good end of middle class.
    Maybe I should relocate, because it won't get you much more than an apartment in the wrong neighborhood around here. And that's the problem with national numbers. Comparing living costs in a big EC city to rural areas is worse than apples to oranges... at least those two are both fruit.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As best I can tell, your cionclusions are.
    Well, thanks anyway for your analysis as to why the theory you proposed isn't backed up by the actual numbers.

    Which will having nothing to do with your claim. GM has been back in the news often, largely due to poor management from the top and not the worker.
    I never mentioned the workers.

    I think that is a diversion from what we're speaking of. As we all contribute to government, the question is why let those most able get the largest break? Or at least larger than the middle class working person. Business and wealthy get a lot of breaks, in many different ways, with a lot of services that are largely paid for by government. So, asking that they contribute to that, more than the middle class is fair. And to do so without getting breaks that leave them paying far less.
    My daughter got back more than she paid in taxes.

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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    Maybe I should relocate, because it won't get you much more than an apartment in the wrong neighborhood around here. And that's the problem with national numbers. Comparing living costs in a big EC city to rural areas is worse than apples to oranges... at least those two are both fruit.
    Right, and relocating probably wouldn't work either, because the salaries are likely to be lower in places where the cost of living is lower.
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    Re: Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Total income for a family of four? Keep in mind, that's the highest level of "low income" as well - so anything past that is lower-middle class. My gf makes $40,000 a year and we are barely able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment in Charlotte, NC.
    You are no longer lower-middle class. You are now called low income. Have you considered getting a job since you can't live off your gf's 40K?

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