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    Re: Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So basically you're admitting that you are all talk, and want others to pay for what you want to give away. I say find a poor family, and give them half your paycheck. Show them you care.
    35% = 50%?


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    Re: Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Apparently America's "children" are now expected to make do with less government support, but only one Republican presidential candidate is on record stating that Israel can now expect to make do with less US foreign aid.

    Is it just coincidence that Ron Paul is also the one and only GOP candidate deliberately excluded from speaking at an event sponsored by the powerful Jewish lobby?
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    Re: Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    It is not the responsibility of the government to take care of children. That is a familys responsibility. Churches help all the time. Lay-off my tax money.
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    Re: Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    You have to ASK the churches for help, just like you do the government. Again IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER TO PROVIDE CHILD CARE. Get the point?
    US Constitution: Preamble

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    Beyond moral arguments, to "promote the general Welfare" provides the basis for any compelling justification for the involvement of the American taxpayer in "child care."

    While the "Preamble" was never intended to assign specific responsibilities to the federal government, it does reflect the intention of the Founding Fathers that the state should actively "promote the general Welfare" of its citizens - and that includes children.

    In a perfect world, parents should shoulder most of the responsibility for raising their children - an assumption that does not always translate into reality.

    Irrespective of the parenting skills/lack of parenting skills bestowed upon them, these children are all US citizens and "to form a more perfect Union," the nation will always have a vested interest in the education, development and well-being of its citizens - particularily the youngest and most vulnerable ones.
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    Re: Aid for Child Care Drops When It Is Needed Most - NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    Beyond moral arguments, to "promote the general Welfare" provides the basis for any compelling justification for the involvement of the American taxpayer in "child care."

    While the "Preamble" was never intended to assign specific responsibilities to the federal government, it does reflect the intention of the Founding Fathers that the state should actively "promote the general Welfare" of its citizens - and that includes children.

    In a perfect world, parents should shoulder most of the responsibility for raising their children - an assumption that does not always translate into reality.

    Irrespective of the parenting skills/lack of parenting skills bestowed upon them, these children are all US citizens and "to form a more perfect Union," the nation will always have a vested interest in the education, development and well-being of its citizens - particularily the youngest and most vulnerable ones.
    there are 2 parts in the Constitution that mention "the general welfare" the 2nd one is in the Taxing and Spending Clause,

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    given our present day USA, this fits perfectly in my view of our current welfare system. could it be reformed and run better? sure. but not reform in the form of huge cuts.

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