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New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

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I dont care if your Dem or Rep, progressive or conservative...you should denounce this MORON and his absurd idea to give our country alway to non nationals...this is a disgusting attempt to circumvent the voting results of american citizens and to dilute the process with NON CITIZENS. He should be soundly denounced for this.


New Haven Mayor John DeStefano plans to ask the state Legislature to allow illegal immigrants who live in the city to be able vote in municipal elections.

DeStefano said on Tuesday that the proposal would build a more engaged community and follows the lead of other cities, the New Haven Register reports.
The Register reports that 10,000 to 12,000 undocumented residents are believed to live in New Haven.
Immigrants who are in the U.S. legally or illegally and cannot vote now would still be unable to vote in state or federal elections.
DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.

New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote | NBC Connecticut
 
I dont care if your Dem or Rep, progressive or conservative...you should denounce this MORON and his absurd idea to give our country alway to non nationals...this is a disgusting attempt to circumvent the voting results of american citizens and to dilute the process with NON CITIZENS. He should be soundly denounced for this.


New Haven Mayor John DeStefano plans to ask the state Legislature to allow illegal immigrants who live in the city to be able vote in municipal elections.

DeStefano said on Tuesday that the proposal would build a more engaged community and follows the lead of other cities, the New Haven Register reports.
The Register reports that 10,000 to 12,000 undocumented residents are believed to live in New Haven.
Immigrants who are in the U.S. legally or illegally and cannot vote now would still be unable to vote in state or federal elections.
DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.

New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote | NBC Connecticut

Yep, this is indeed a stupid suggestion made by the Mayor.
 
If it's just for municipal elections, then it really falls to the city to determine who they want to vote or not. If they think it's a good idea, then they're welcome to try it and live with whatever consequences occur (not that I think people suddenly become more moral or suddenly vote the "right" way by virtue of citizenship). For anything beyond this city, however, citizenship is a prerequisite of voting. Anything in the state or federal governments impact the country as a whole, and the country is a long way from deciding that anyone other than a citizen can vote.

A much better solution for DeStefano would be a program to get those 10-12 thousand illegals to become citizens.
 
If it's just for municipal elections, then it really falls to the city to determine who they want to vote or not. If they think it's a good idea, then they're welcome to try it and live with whatever consequences occur (not that I think people suddenly become more moral or suddenly vote the "right" way by virtue of citizenship). For anything beyond this city, however, citizenship is a prerequisite of voting. Anything in the state or federal governments impact the country as a whole, and the country is a long way from deciding that anyone other than a citizen can vote.

A much better solution for DeStefano would be a program to get those 10-12 thousand illegals to become citizens.

But then he wouldn't be able to get his grass cut on the cheap.
 
The only way this is a GOOD idea is if this is actually a plan to arrest and deport (or execute) all of these illegals. Since I've lived in CT and worked in New Haven in my life I know it isn't. This is actually something this moron believes is a GOOD idea. Just another reason New Haven is going down the crapper.
 
If it's just for municipal elections, then it really falls to the city to determine who they want to vote or not. If they think it's a good idea, then they're welcome to try it and live with whatever consequences occur (not that I think people suddenly become more moral or suddenly vote the "right" way by virtue of citizenship). For anything beyond this city, however, citizenship is a prerequisite of voting. Anything in the state or federal governments impact the country as a whole, and the country is a long way from deciding that anyone other than a citizen can vote.



A much better solution for DeStefano would be a program to get those 10-12 thousand illegals to become citizens.



I wouldnt think a mayor and city council have the juice to make illegals legal and im glad they dont.....this is absurd on all levels...and every registered voter should be appalled that this mayor wants to negate their vote or at minimum change the results by allowing NON AMERICANS to vote in an american election....I hope they run this guy out of office next election
 
I wouldnt think a mayor and city council have the juice to make illegals legal and im glad they dont.....this is absurd on all levels...and every registered voter should be appalled that this mayor wants to negate their vote or at minimum change the results by allowing NON AMERICANS to vote in an american election....I hope they run this guy out of office next election

Don't hold your breath on that, lpast. He's been there quite a while and he'll probably be there until he decides he wants to move onto something bigger and better.

You are right that the voters/citizens in New Haven should be appalled by this. Though I would guess that enough of them are RELATED/TIED to the illegals, either directly or indirectly that they wouldn't care.
 
The only way this is a GOOD idea is if this is actually a plan to arrest and deport (or execute) all of these illegals. Since I've lived in CT and worked in New Haven in my life I know it isn't. This is actually something this moron believes is a GOOD idea. Just another reason New Haven is going down the crapper.

Seriously Tigger, execute them ? lol...your strange....if anyone should be executed it should be the American Mayor
 
Seriously Tigger, execute them ? lol...your strange....if anyone should be executed it should be the American Mayor

They're here illegally. Technically they can be executed as spies and sabatours. I am against legitimizing/legalizing ANY of these foreign nationals who have not entered the United States through the proper channels.

Though I do agree that the mayor needs to get his just desserts too. I'd suggest drawing and quartering. There's a great spot on the New Haven town green to do it, too.
 
They're here illegally. Technically they can be executed as spies and sabatours. I am against legitimizing/legalizing ANY of these foreign nationals who have not entered the United States through the proper channels.

Though I do agree that the mayor needs to get his just desserts too. I'd suggest drawing and quartering. There's a great spot on the New Haven town green to do it, too.

Tigger I dislike and want illegal immigration stopped as much as anyone else...but how did they get here ? they got here because our politicians refuse to do whats necessary to seal the border...and to deport ALL of them as they are caught and established to be here illegally....and the politicians that keep the illegal immigrant candy store open...If anyone got executed it should be the enablers..
 
Tigger I dislike and want illegal immigration stopped as much as anyone else...but how did they get here ? they got here because our politicians refuse to do whats necessary to seal the border...and to deport ALL of them as they are caught and established to be here illegally....and the politicians that keep the illegal immigrant candy store open...If anyone got executed it should be the enablers..

That is not a valid argument.

Is it ok for someone to rob your house because you left it unlocked? Should the police arrest 1 out of every 10 thieves they find?

The illegals hold no responsibility for thier actions as far as you are concerned right?
 
Tigger I dislike and want illegal immigration stopped as much as anyone else...but how did they get here ? they got here because our politicians refuse to do whats necessary to seal the border...and to deport ALL of them as they are caught and established to be here illegally....and the politicians that keep the illegal immigrant candy store open...If anyone got executed it should be the enablers..
It takes two to tango.The illegals are just as guilty as the scum who hire them,the scum who have enticed the illegals to come here and the scum who made it easy for illegals to come here. The idea that the illegals are an innocent party is absurd.
 
It takes two to tango.The illegals are just as guilty as the scum who hire them,the scum who have enticed the illegals to come here and the scum who made it easy for illegals to come here. The idea that the illegals are an innocent party is absurd.

Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration, which makes it effectively impossible to stop illegal immigration.
 
Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration, which makes it effectively impossible to stop illegal immigration.

Whether or not we allow people into our country legally has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration,

Why not humor me and say what you think is a realistic level of legal immigration.
 
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Voting is a right of a citizen.
 
Whether or not we allow people into our country legally has nothing to do with illegal immigration.

Sure, just like the demand for illegal drugs has no correlation with the quantity of illegal drugs crossing the border. Supply>Demand>Supply>Demand

Why not humor me and say what you think is a realistic level of legal immigration.

It would be a pure guess except to say that the number is multiples higher than we presently allow.
 
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Sure, just like the demand for illegal drugs has no correlation with the quantity of illegal drugs crossing the border. Supply>Demand>Supply>Demand



It would be a pure guess except to say that the number is multiples higher than we presently allow.
No doubt the number will never be sufficiently high.
 
Sure, just like the demand for illegal drugs has no correlation with the quantity of illegal drugs crossing the border. Supply>Demand>Supply>Demand

The demand is for illegals, not legal immigrants or legal migrant workers. Those that want illegals here are the scumbags who hire illegals, because one of the benefits of hiring illegals is you do not have to pay them the same wage as you would someone who is an American or a legal migrant worker. The other people who want illegals are scumbag politicians who pander to those who aid illegals.Those that demand illegals don't give a rats ass about legal immigrants. Again whether or not we allow people into our country legally has nothing to do with illegal immigration. e .

It would be a pure guess except to say that the number is multiples higher than we presently allow.

So in other words you have no idea what that number is.
 
I wouldnt think a mayor and city council have the juice to make illegals legal and im glad they dont.....this is absurd on all levels...and every registered voter should be appalled that this mayor wants to negate their vote or at minimum change the results by allowing NON AMERICANS to vote in an american election....I hope they run this guy out of office next election

The only running that I want to see this mayor *spits* doing is running for his life as a mob of people with pitchforks and torches run him out of town. Barring that...Impeach this S.O.B NOW.
 
They're here illegally. Technically they can be executed as spies and sabatours. I am against legitimizing/legalizing ANY of these foreign nationals who have not entered the United States through the proper channels.

Though I do agree that the mayor needs to get his just desserts too. I'd suggest drawing and quartering. There's a great spot on the New Haven town green to do it, too.

By "technically" do you mean straight from your ass, or do you know of an actual law that allows you to do this.
 
The only running that I want to see this mayor *spits* doing is running for his life as a mob of people with pitchforks and torches run him out of town. Barring that...Impeach this S.O.B NOW.

Won't happen in a million years in New Haven or in CT. CT may be on the right coast but it leans way to the left.
 
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