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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Tigger I dislike and want illegal immigration stopped as much as anyone else...but how did they get here ? they got here because our politicians refuse to do whats necessary to seal the border...and to deport ALL of them as they are caught and established to be here illegally....and the politicians that keep the illegal immigrant candy store open...If anyone got executed it should be the enablers..
    That is not a valid argument.

    Is it ok for someone to rob your house because you left it unlocked? Should the police arrest 1 out of every 10 thieves they find?

    The illegals hold no responsibility for thier actions as far as you are concerned right?

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Tigger I dislike and want illegal immigration stopped as much as anyone else...but how did they get here ? they got here because our politicians refuse to do whats necessary to seal the border...and to deport ALL of them as they are caught and established to be here illegally....and the politicians that keep the illegal immigrant candy store open...If anyone got executed it should be the enablers..
    It takes two to tango.The illegals are just as guilty as the scum who hire them,the scum who have enticed the illegals to come here and the scum who made it easy for illegals to come here. The idea that the illegals are an innocent party is absurd.
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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It takes two to tango.The illegals are just as guilty as the scum who hire them,the scum who have enticed the illegals to come here and the scum who made it easy for illegals to come here. The idea that the illegals are an innocent party is absurd.
    Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration, which makes it effectively impossible to stop illegal immigration.

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    But then he wouldn't be able to get his grass cut on the cheap.
    It is New Haven...they don't have grass. Lots of asphalt.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration, which makes it effectively impossible to stop illegal immigration.
    Whether or not we allow people into our country legally has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
    Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration,
    Why not humor me and say what you think is a realistic level of legal immigration.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 12-14-11 at 03:22 PM.
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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Voting is a right of a citizen.
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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Do we not hold anything sacred as American citizens anymore?

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Whether or not we allow people into our country legally has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
    Sure, just like the demand for illegal drugs has no correlation with the quantity of illegal drugs crossing the border. Supply>Demand>Supply>Demand

    Why not humor me and say what you think is a realistic level of legal immigration.
    It would be a pure guess except to say that the number is multiples higher than we presently allow.
    Last edited by AdamT; 12-14-11 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Don't leave out the scum who fail to provide for realistic levels of legal immigration, which makes it effectively impossible to stop illegal immigration.
    the sad thing is you BELIEVE this. 1.3 million LEGAL immigrants in 2009, along with 36 million legal migrant/temp workers.

    You dont want it easier...you want open borders.

    Population Bulletin Update: Immigration in America 2010 - Population Reference Bureau

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    Re: New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, just like the demand for illegal drugs has no correlation with the quantity of illegal drugs crossing the border. Supply>Demand>Supply>Demand



    It would be a pure guess except to say that the number is multiples higher than we presently allow.
    No doubt the number will never be sufficiently high.
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