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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is not the point...In fact all your statement does is display for everyone your jealousy, and impedance at being able to garner wealth for yourself. Instead of trying to redistribute someone elses wealth, why don't you fight to make sure our education system is made better so that we as a country can compete, and therefore rising all boats....No, you just want to look at others and think of what you can take.
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    Wow you are a master psychologist who has delved into my mind and discovered my "true" motivation.

    Apparently you're also a master telekinetic forensic accountant who has managed to inventory my wealth through the internet!

    Or not. Actually, and as usual, this is the best approach to take for purely pragmatic reasons. The economy needs help in the demand area. A payroll tax holiday is an excellent way to stimulate demand. A small, temporary tax increase on income over $1 million won't detract too much from the stimulus.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The point is that it shouldn't be part of this bill. Isn't that what conservatives have complained about in the past? Having riders attached to a bill that has nothing to do with the bill?

    While I know the line-item veto would surely be abused in the long run, this is the time I wish it were around.
    I thought this bill was suppose to create jobs and an environment to grow the economy.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    As far as TD's comment, the liberal Nobel prize winner, Paul Krugman, said it was a ponzi scheme.

    Republicans need to hammer the Dems on this. Why are they against a bill that, by all accounts, will almost immediately create tens of thousands of good, high paying jobs ????
    The Ponzi Thing - NYTimes.com

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    What will this pipeline do and who will benefit. I just heard of it yesterday. Is it oil from us to them or via versa?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Ahhh, Krugman backtracking once again. I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked.

    Problem is that he can't recant his comments of 14 years ago, no matter how hard he tries. He said them, and the claim the quote was taken out of context is ludicrous. He said it, he owns it.

    And that's all I have to say on that topic. This thread has been taken off topic too much already.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    What will this pipeline do and who will benefit. I just heard of it yesterday. Is it oil from us to them or via versa?
    It is oil that will be piped to refineries in the U.S. It will create thousands of jobs here and construction can begin immediately. Job estimates range from 20,000 to 100,000.

    Canada has already said that if the U.S. won't build the pipeline, they'll sell the oil to China.

    This is a win-win for U.S. workers and the only excuse Obama has for not approving is that he doesn't want to piss of his far left looney environmental lobby before the 2012 election. Even the unions have come out in support for the pipeline construction.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahhh, Krugman backtracking once again. I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked.

    Problem is that he can't recant his comments of 14 years ago, no matter how hard he tries. He said them, and the claim the quote was taken out of context is ludicrous. He said it, he owns it.

    And that's all I have to say on that topic. This thread has been taken off topic too much already.
    Yeah, I didn't suppose you would actually consider the context of his earlier comment.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It is oil that will be piped to refineries in the U.S. It will create thousands of jobs here and construction can begin immediately. Job estimates range from 20,000 to 100,000.

    Canada has already said that if the U.S. won't build the pipeline, they'll sell the oil to China.

    This is a win-win for U.S. workers and the only excuse Obama has for not approving is that he doesn't want to piss of his far left looney environmental lobby before the 2012 election. Even the unions have come out in support for the pipeline construction.
    Actually job estimates range from negative job creation to very few, mostly temporary jobs.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, I didn't suppose you would actually consider the context of his earlier comment.
    His quote was clear to all, at least those not wearing partisan blinders.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    What will this pipeline do and who will benefit. I just heard of it yesterday. Is it oil from us to them or via versa?
    It's a pipeline from Canada to us. It would have been a secure pipeline to a major energy source in a friendly allied nation and would have given us the ability to significantly reduce over time the amount of oil money we have to send to the Middle East. In the meantime, it would have created tens of thousands of above-average income jobs here in the United States for building and then running the thing.

    instead, now it's going to go to serve China. because sometimes we do incredibly stupid things. like elect a naive child-king as president.

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