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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we don't pay Congressmen & Senators to spend four-years focusing just on the next Presidential election, and getting nothing else done.

    but apparently, this is ok for the GOP.
    Why not? If the president is harming the country, it's the duty of our congressmen to help get him voted out. It's all that, "messy democracy", stuff.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we don't pay Congressmen & Senators to spend four-years focusing just on the next Presidential election, and getting nothing else done.

    but apparently, this is ok for the GOP.
    Do you actually believe the Dems didn't spend 4 years trying to get Bush out of office ???

    If you do, I need to talk to you about some bridges I have for sale.

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How is Congress trying to override Nebraska's prerogative when they passed the House bill this week, while TransCanada agreed to reroute the pipeline in November????
    This is how:

    "Capitol Hill Republicans, backed by industry groups, want to force a quick decision on the pipeline, which the administration currently plans to review into 2013."

    Obama threatens veto if pipeline decision is added to payroll tax cut - The Hill's E2-Wire
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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Do you actually believe the Dems didn't spend 4 years trying to get Bush out of office ???

    If you do, I need to talk to you about some bridges I have for sale.
    No, I don't believe that Democrats filibustered bills that they actually supported, just because Bush supported them, too -- as Republicans have done. I believe that Democrats actually voted based on whether they thought the measure before them was good for the country. Their first thought wasn't, "how can I vote to **** up President Bush?"

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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, I don't believe that Democrats filibustered bills that they actually supported, just because Bush supported them, too -- as Republicans have done. I believe that Democrats actually voted based on whether they thought the measure before them was good for the country. Their first thought wasn't, "how can I vote to **** up President Bush?"

    Is that so? You don't believe? Really?


    The Democrats had been using the filibuster to prevent the confirmation of conservative appellate court candidates nominated by President George W. Bush. In the Republican-controlled 108th Congress, ten Bush judicial nominees had been filibustered by the minority Democrats. The ten Bush appellate nominees who were filibustered were Miguel Estrada, Priscilla Owen, Charles W. Pickering, Carolyn Kuhl, David W. McKeague, Henry Saad, Richard Allen Griffin, William H. Pryor, William Gerry Myers III and Janice Rogers Brown.

    As a result of these ten filibusters, Senate Republicans began to threaten to change the existing Senate rules by using what Senator Trent Lott termed the "nuclear option" and which Republicans tended to call the "constitutional option." This change in rules would eliminate the use of the filibuster to prevent judicial confirmation votes.

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    I'd say your memory is either short, or you are just being willingly obtuse.

    Which one is it?


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    Re: House Passes Payroll Tax Cut Extension With Keystone Pipeline Provision Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'd say your memory is either short, or you are just being willingly obtuse.

    Which one is it?


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    Read again, the claim was the Dems didn't filibuster bills they actually supported. You bring up CONSERVATIVE nominees. Why would the Dems support conservative nominees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Read again, the claim was the Dems didn't filibuster bills they actually supported. You bring up CONSERVATIVE nominees. Why would the Dems support conservative nominees?
    Well, that was just a cursory search for the times back then....Do we need to debate the entire Bush terms for the rest of eternity to continue to excuse this administration from their destructive path for this country?

    Look, Obama's gang are being just as disingenuous as the demo's are in this crap. You can't claim you're the great compromiser, the great uniter, then say your compromise is that repubs do it your way.


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