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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    It is a shame we have to make laws to componsate for the lack of common sense in some people. If people used common sense when driving we would not be seeing half the laws that are proposed or passed.

    Personally, I don't text with the phone and I don't answer till I can find a place to stop. Voice mail and missed call features are wonderful things. It pixxxx me off when I see people not paying attention for whatever reason while driving. Cell phones is just one of the problems.
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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    The Obama administration is considering disabling cell phones in American cars, aiming to cut down on distracted drivers and cell-phone-related road deaths.

    Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the nation’s preeminent anti-distracted-driving crusader, said in an interview on MSNBC yesterday that federal officials are looking at technology to disable cell phones inside cars.

    “I think it will be done,” LaHood said. “I think the technology is there and I think you’re going to see the technology become adaptable in automobiles to disable these cell phones. We need to do a lot more if were going to save lives.”


    As to an earlier point, this would also stop hands free cell use. Now I can understand all arguement against texting. There is no way one can safely text and drive. I undertand one can make arguements against cell phone use but hands free is no different than as noted, talking to the person next to you.

    To Thwart Distracted Driving, US Government Considers Cell Phone Jammers in Cars | Popular Science

    LaHood has said it is never safe to talk on a cell phone while driving, hands-free or not, because it is a “cognitive distraction.”

    No more so than as noted, talking to your kid about his day at school.

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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    There was an interesting discussion about this on one of the Boston radio shows last night. The total ban (including hands-free) was actually suggested at one time here in Massachusetts but didn't get any traction. The discussion centered around the idea that this was coming to pass because the texters cannot stop their addictive behavior (texting behind the wheel) and that if they could, then there wouldn't be a necessity for the full ban because talking on the phone supposedly (according to one of the hosts) isn't anywhere near as distracting as texting.

    I wonder if the NTSB has considered what effects this might have on traffic patterns and commerce in general. During that discussion I mentioned a moment ago, a salesman called in and indicated that he would essentially have to stop being on the road at least two days a week if he couldn't take calls while driving. I also know that the business I work in (electric utility) requires our operations personnel to be on the phone while in the vehicle a large percentage of the time. Especially during emergency work. Imagine how much longer it's going to take to get your lights back on when the lineman has to pull over every time his cell phone rings.

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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    OSHA has certainly considered the problem, and your firm could be in deep doodoo if they put workers at risk.

    "...OSHA is partnering with others across government, industry and the public to bring together important information and tools to attack texting while driving and other distracted driver hazards. We invite you to learn more about combating this problem at Occupational Safety and Health Administration - Home and at DOTís distracted driving website, Distracted Driving | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration | Texting and Driving.

    Most employers want to do the right thing and protect their workers, and some have already taken action to prohibit texting while driving. It is your responsibility and legal obligation to create and maintain a safe and healthful workplace, and that would include having a clear, unequivocal and enforced policy against the hazard of texting while driving. Companies are in violation of the Occupational Safety and Health Act if, by policy or practice, they require texting while driving, or create incentives that encourage or condone it, or they structure work so that texting is a practical necessity for workers to carry out their job... "

    The DoT has words on the issue too...

    "The U.S. Department of Transportation is leading the effort to stop texting and cell phone use behind the wheel. Since 2009, we have held two national distracted driving summits, banned texting and cell phone use for commercial drivers, encouraged states to adopt tough laws, and launched several campaigns to raise public awareness about the issue... "
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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    Manc,

    We don't do anything by TEXT. However, the linemen and underground workers, especially trouble workers are required to answer phone calls while driving all the time. It's literally part of their job. That's how they get about 90% of the trouble calls that are dispatched to them by our Control Center. The other 10% come over the two-way radio. Workers have to pull over to take switching orders, as they are required to write them down before executing them, but the dispatching of calls is almost always done via phone. To expect that a worker will be able to pull over at any time to take a call is pretty silly. If nothing else, the driver is likely to miss the call and then have to call dispatch back, find out who was trying to contact him, and then get the information from them that way. A very ineffective and time-consuming process at best.

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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I like to use my phone for its map app when driving sometimes. This ban would prevent me from doing this, but would not stop me from using an unwieldy paper map. This rule is likely overboard.
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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    I believe the number is 3,000 killed or murdered on our highways annually from cell phone drivers. How many died in our wars last year? If it were 50,000 would anyone actually do something other than make laws that cannot be enforced? Who are drivers talking to at 5:00 AM when I see them on the phone while driving? I don't like being a sexist but aren't the huge majority of violators?
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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't see any reason to ban hands-free cell phone use. If you're going to do that, wouldn't the same logic lead you to ban drivers from talking to other passengers in the car?
    Even hands free cell phone use causes the brain to be more engaged in talking than driving. regardless of what people say or think, our brain is not a quad core multiprocessor...it is a single core system. If you are talking on the phone you are either not paying attention to who you are talking to or to the road. When driving at 65-75 miles an hour in a ton of steel, a seconds distraction tends to be fatal. And you are correct...people should limit conversations and for that matter, music when they drive, although music can easily be peripheral as it doesnt require interaction.

    Lots of things should be illegal when driving. Eating, applying make-up, looking up addresses, reading books, watching movies. Some of the stuff we see people doing...

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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Even hands free cell phone use causes the brain to be more engaged in talking than driving. regardless of what people say or think, our brain is not a quad core multiprocessor...it is a single core system. If you are talking on the phone you are either not paying attention to who you are talking to or to the road. When driving at 65-75 miles an hour in a ton of steel, a seconds distraction tends to be fatal.
    No, it doesn't tend to be fatal as it happens countless numbers of times daily.

    And you are correct...people should limit conversations and for that matter, music when they drive, although music can easily be peripheral as it doesnt require interaction.

    Lots of things should be illegal when driving. Eating, applying make-up, looking up addresses, reading books, watching movies. Some of the stuff we see people doing...
    Many far more distracting than hands free phone use.

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    Re: NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving

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