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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that signing a bill that didn't need his signature does not make him wholly responsible for it. The fact remains that it was the rightwing who supported the bill and the left who opposed it. You seem to have the misconception that rightwing politicians give a **** about the working class and had nothing to do with repealing Glass-Steagall.
    Again if Clinton really opposed it he could have refused to sign it.
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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Which is why I'm an independent,
    An independent partisan hack lib.

    but at least I'm not so dishonest that I try to pretend that the right had nothing to do with repealing Glass-Steagall.
    Did I ever say the right had nothing to do with repealing the Glass-Steagall act?
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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It still does not change the fact that if Clinton didn't want it then he could have vetoed it.No one forced him to sign the bill.The fact he signed the bill means he supports it.
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    Again if Clinton really opposed it he could have refused to sign it.
    Seriously?

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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again if Clinton really opposed it he could have refused to sign it.
    If the right didnt support it, they wouldnt have voted for it
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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    How did the OWS cordinate shutting down the west coast? Twitter? Why weren't the intercepted?
    I think the better question should be why aren't the police tossing the protester in jail to blocking the ports.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    who are they "useful idiots" for?

    are you aware of the meaning of the term?
    Adbusters.

    Yes...and it fits perfectly.
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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think the better question should be why aren't the police tossing the protester in jail to blocking the ports.
    The police, throughout this whole OWS thing, have been very careful to avoid conflict whenever possible.

    Frankly, I think this must irritate Adbusters to no end, since they really want violent confrontation...and they are NOT getting it.
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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Child labor laws take away the freedom that families have to provide for themselves. 40 hour work week takes freedom away from the worker to choose to work extra hours for extra pay to support his/her family. Blah blah blah.
    Got any docs showing what egg-head made that argument?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protesters halt operations at some western ports

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, Wall St is screwing with the economy, with the ability of workers to earn income and pay their bills and the ability of consumers world wide access to products. Wall St is hurting the people they claim to be the champions of because in their greedy little world, it will benefit their portfolios. Their actions are destructive and corrupt.
    The government is screwing with it, more.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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