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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You're own article states that entering the country illegally is a federal misdemeanor. And irregardless of whether they came here legally but overstayed thier visa or if they came across the border they will get arrested. The only difference being that one that stayed past thier visa is not charged with a crime where as one that crossed the border will. But in both cases they will be arrested.
    Yes, someone who overstayed can be detained, but the mere fact of being in the country without documentation is not a crime -- my point.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I USED to pay my car insurance, then I stopped. I still drive.


    Crime or no?
    Depends on what state you live in and what their laws say.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, someone who overstayed can be detained, but the mere fact of being in the country without documentation is not a crime -- my point.
    Since it sounds like you are approaching a dictionary defense, what is a crime, to you?

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, someone who overstayed can be detained, but the mere fact of being in the country without documentation is not a crime -- my point.
    Give an example of how someone could be in the country without any documentation, and it NOT be criminal?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Depends on what state you live in and what their laws say.
    Having car insurance is required by federal law, in order to drive. The presence of interstate highways require this. To AMOUNT of insurance is the only thing that changes from state to state.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Also....It's ok for states to decide about car insurance, but not the enforcement of existing immigration laws?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Since it sounds like you are approaching a dictionary defense, what is a crime, to you?
    A crime, to anyone, is the violation of a law in a state or federal criminal code, generally punishable by a fine and/or imprisonment.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Having car insurance is required by federal law, in order to drive.
    I don't think so.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Also....It's ok for states to decide about car insurance, but not the enforcement of existing immigration laws?
    That's right. Unlike immigration, there is nothing in the Constitution saying the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction over auto insurance.

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    Re: Supreme Court will hear Arizona immigration case

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Give an example of how someone could be in the country without any documentation, and it NOT be criminal?
    If someone comes here on a student, work, or tourist visa, and overstays, they have not committed a criminal violation. It is a civil violation and the worst that can be done to them is deportation.

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