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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    A confession is when the accused admits to the court. This is called hearsay, genius.
    Dude, that's not hearsay.

    Hearsay would be if I said "Bob told me Khayembii likes Pepsi". I don't know where Bob got his information, and I'm just relaying it.

    A confession is just that, "I did X". Anyone who witnesses the statement can attest to its factual existence.
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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Dude, that's not hearsay.

    Hearsay would be if I said "Bob told me Khayembii likes Pepsi". I don't know where Bob got his information, and I'm just relaying it.
    You're right, my bad. But j-mac is still wrong in that a witness testifying to an alleged confession is not a confession.
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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You're right, my bad. But j-mac is still wrong in that a witness testifying to an alleged confession is not a confession.
    I think you are confusing the documentation when a defendant writes out his confession. In both cases, the confession must be witnessed by another party, and additional evidence is required to substantiate the confession.

    In this case, given the evidence presented at trial, it would seem that the facts support the statement witnessed at the hospital.

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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Source at: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal : NPR I believe this man is innocent. I believe that this man needs to be out of jail. He deserves another trial. This is great strides in the case.

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    "Prosecution case at trial

    The prosecution presented four witnesses to the court. Robert Chobert, a cab driver who testified he was parked behind Faulkner, identified Abu-Jamal as the shooter.[33] Cynthia White, a prostitute, testified that Abu-Jamal emerged from a nearby parking lot and shot Faulkner.[34] Michael Scanlan, a motorist, testified that from two car lengths away, he saw a man, matching Abu-Jamal's description, run across the street from a parking lot and shoot Faulkner.[35] Albert Magilton, a pedestrian who did not see the actual murder, testified to witnessing Faulkner pull over Cook's car. At the point of seeing Abu-Jamal start to cross the street toward them from the parking lot, Magilton turned away and lost sight of what happened next.[36]

    The prosecution also presented two witnesses who were at the hospital after the altercation. Hospital security guard Priscilla Durham and Police Officer Garry Bell testified that Abu-Jamal confessed in the hospital by saying, "I shot the mother****er, and I hope the mother****er dies."[37]

    A .38 caliber Charter Arms revolver, belonging to Abu-Jamal, with five spent cartridges was retrieved beside him at the scene. He was wearing a shoulder holster, and the shell casings and rifling characteristics of the weapon were consistent with bullet fragments taken from Faulkner's body.[38] Tests to confirm that Abu-Jamal had handled and fired the weapon were not performed, as contact with arresting police and other surfaces at the scene could have compromised the forensic value of such tests.[39][40]"



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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    A confession is when the accused admits to the court. This is called hearsay, genius.

    That is not "hearsay". If you tell me you committed a crime, I can be called as a witness to tell me what you directly told me.
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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Doesn't really matter that we ain't killing him. Dead or life in prison, the same for all the rest of us. Plus it's cheaper, so yay for saving money!
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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    It is interesting how some will turn things around. The original OP stated he believed the person is innocent, yet never provided proof. Yet when we say he was guilty and was found so from the trail, we are to prove it? Yes, there are innocent people in jail. Though this thread is about a single case not all case. So unless someone can show Jamal is innocent, I stand by the findings of guilt.

    what is wrong is he has been sitting on death row for 30 years.
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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    It is interesting how some will turn things around. The original OP stated he believed the person is innocent, yet never provided proof. Yet when we say he was guilty and was found so from the trail, we are to prove it? Yes, there are innocent people in jail. Though this thread is about a single case not all case. So unless someone can show Jamal is innocent, I stand by the findings of guilt.

    what is wrong is he has been sitting on death row for 30 years.
    I agree. I understand that there should be adequate time for appeals, but 30 years?!?!?!?!

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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    ....As a Catholic I believe that arbitrary ending of a humans life when that person is no longer a danger to others is wrong......
    As a TAXPAYER, I believe that wasting the State's money keeping this guy incarcerated for life when a $10 length of rope or a $0.50 bullet will suffice to mete out his punishment is INSANE.

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    Re: Death Penalty Dropped Against Mumia Abu-Jamal

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    As a TAXPAYER, I believe that wasting the State's money keeping this guy incarcerated for life when a $10 length of rope or a $0.50 bullet will suffice to mete out his punishment is INSANE.
    you don't live in Pennsylvania, so its not your money.

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