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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    All nations have been spying on each other even be Mata Hari. Take a look at a web site that shows how many satellites are orbiting the earth, it will amaze you! But then we have cameras everywhere here from the latreen, the lunchroom, school buses, the intersections and every corner of every business in the world. You can buy spy equipment in Toys R Us, Radio Shack so don't complain because YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Well yeah. We'd be stupid if we weren't spying on them.
    There is no "we". We aren't doing anything to Iran. The correct statement is that the us military is attempting to spy on Iran w/its (pathetic) drone planes.

    Please don't lump all the American people (i. e. using the term "we") with the silly, childish, retarded actions of the govt.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Am I the only one who thinks this is a little far fetched?

    There's no real confirmation on how this thing actually ended up in Iranian hands.

    The two competing stories are that it was shot down, or it malfunctioned and crashed.

    Now either way you look at the pictures of this thing does it not strike you as a little odd it appears to have no damage whatsoever? Not even a scratch, some burn marks... nothing?



    And then you're telling me they decided to mount the damn thing on an Anti-American pedestal that looks like it was designed by Kindergarten kids?

    Something doesn't add up here.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    The most likely explanation for this is that Iran did not capture any drone, but merely displayed a life-size replica of one. Several reasons for this

    1) Military drones are designed to self-destruct when losing contact w/its controller. Although it's theoretically possible the self-destruct mechanism malfunctioned, it's too unlikely to be plausible.

    2) Hacking a drone is impossible. The Iranians would have to have the control software's protocol and encryption scheme and the associated encryption key pairs. Even the best spying efforts by the Iranians couldn't have managed that.

    3) Because of the above 2 reasons, it would make more sense for Iran to simply shoot the drone out of the sky, since the "stealth" on the drone can be very easily defeated, even w/homemade technology.
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks this is a little far fetched?

    There's no real confirmation on how this thing actually ended up in Iranian hands.

    The two competing stories are that it was shot down, or it malfunctioned and crashed.

    Now either way you look at the pictures of this thing does it not strike you as a little odd it appears to have no damage whatsoever? Not even a scratch, some burn marks... nothing?



    And then you're telling me they decided to mount the damn thing on an Anti-American pedestal that looks like it was designed by Kindergarten kids?

    Something doesn't add up here.
    Referring to the us govt as "kindergarten kids" is an insult to kindergarteners everywhere.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks this is a little far fetched?

    There's no real confirmation on how this thing actually ended up in Iranian hands.

    The two competing stories are that it was shot down, or it malfunctioned and crashed.

    Now either way you look at the pictures of this thing does it not strike you as a little odd it appears to have no damage whatsoever? Not even a scratch, some burn marks... nothing?



    And then you're telling me they decided to mount the damn thing on an Anti-American pedestal that looks like it was designed by Kindergarten kids?

    Something doesn't add up here.
    Iran is suspected of having been able to override the control system for the UAV. The landing by inexperienced Iranian pilots and possibly the ground it landed on most likely damaged the bottom of the drone and the landing gear.


    If I recall correctly the base in the US where the pilots are located had a computer virus issue a few months ago, and that could be how the Irans gained the ability to bring the thing down.


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    The Iranians are believed to have received jammers from Russia which could have been used to block the signal from the US pilots, allowing for the Iranians to override the drone controls
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Referring to the us govt as "kindergarten kids" is an insult to kindergarteners everywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And then you're telling me they decided to mount the damn thing on an Anti-American pedestal that looks like it was designed by Kindergarten kids?
    Umm.... I was reffering to the thing they had the drone mounted on...

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    I'm a bit surprised that the drone was apparently not equipped with redundant mechanical/electronic self-destruct safeguards.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The most likely explanation for this is that Iran did not capture any drone, but merely displayed a life-size replica of one.
    On this I would agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    3) Because of the above 2 reasons, it would make more sense for Iran to simply shoot the drone out of the sky, since the "stealth" on the drone can be very easily defeated, even w/homemade technology.
    Exactly where did you get this info? By what process is the stealth defeated by "homemade technology?"
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Folks, PLEASE have a look at this... I've mentioned this several times and I'm amazed no one else notices.

    The thick coating of Bondo (plastic filler used in auto body repair) demonstrates very clearly that the Iranian drone is either poor mockup or a damaged real drone. So this proves it was not brought down "intact." It was NOT taken over by Iran. If anything it crashed when it (automatic systems) couldn't find a suitable landing place.

    Stealth relies heavily on smooth surfaces to redirect radar waves from the radar receiver. Little bumps and jags significantly increase the radar cross-section. The example that Iran is displaying would never be allowed to leave the base. It's in terrible shape. Also, the goofy (and unnecessary) pedestal the jetboogieman noticed is also in indicator of damaged undersides. Please review the comparison of images below. Comments and highlights in red by me.

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