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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    anybody see an aircraft which appeared to have crashed?
    the one i saw was intact
    Take a closer look at the right wing root. It looks like it had been hastily taped together and the gaps filled in with Bondo. A Stealth aircraft relies upon smoothly contoured surfaces to prevent radar returns. You can be certain an undamaged stealth plane won't have the crud on the wing.

    And why isn't the landing gear shown? Why cover it? That's a strange looking display. If the plane crashed the first thing to get mangled is the landing gear. So I find it telling that the landing gear isn't shown in the Iranian display.

    Really. Who do they think they're kidding?
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    WAS!!!!! it improves dramatically everyday...they are pouring billions into their military and they are building aircraftcarriers as we speak...I was referencing tomorrow with china...15 to 20 yrs and that expert predictions not mine...
    Just one aircraft carrier, one small, outdated, aircraft carrier that will probably completed with a full crew in at least a decade.
    Who is that expert anyways?
    The US spends more on its defense budget than the next 20 or so highest defense-spending nations combined.
    Calm down and stop listening to idiots prattling on talking points.
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and then their drone base would have a tragic accident.
    And when the US "shoots down" the drone, there will be only a few charred pieces to display.
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    anybody see an aircraft which appeared to have crashed?
    the one i saw was intact
    Know what..now that you said that...your right, the one I saw was intact tooo...it didnt register then that it didnt look like a crashed plane at all....good observation

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Just one aircraft carrier, one small, outdated, aircraft carrier that will probably completed with a full crew in at least a decade.
    Who is that expert anyways?
    The US spends more on its defense budget than the next 20 or so highest defense-spending nations combined.
    Calm down and stop listening to idiots prattling on talking points.
    How do you know its just one ? ...Ill tell you this, its hard for me to believe that we know what china spends on defense. I find it hard to believe what your saying...when the country has had nuclear capability for decades...and we dont know how many warheads they have...I do know they have missles that can hit the US...

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    How do you know its just one ? ...Ill tell you this, its hard for me to believe that we know what china spends on defense. I find it hard to believe what your saying...when the country has had nuclear capability for decades...and we dont know how many warheads they have...I do know they have missles that can hit the US...
    Don't get too worked up over this. We know it's only one because carriers are hard to hide. You can only work on them at very large, developed ports. Work on a carrier at one is extremely obvious. So yeah, it's only one, and a Russian cast-off to boot.

    Carrier ops are very difficult and very dangerous. It takes decades to get it right. The US has a long history of carrier ops so our teething pains are past us. China's headaches are about to begin. Check out this article:
    WHAT SOVIET NAVAL HISTORY CAN TELL US ABOUT CHINAíS NEW CARRIER | PROSPECT

    Here's a couple quotes from it:
    ďThe basic issue here is that the learning curve at the initial stages of carrier operation is extremely steep. Not only is it difficult and expensive to build a working aircraft carrier, but if you donít already have a fleet of working aircraft carriers, you donít have pilots and flight crews who can reliably operate it. And if you donít have pilots and flight crews, you donít have experienced people who can train new pilots and flight crews. Whatís more, the United States got to go through this bootstrapping phase decades ago when ships and planes were simpler. Then we had a solid foundation of human capital to go through the process of building more advanced hardware. But if you want militarily useful equipment for the 21st century, your human capital gap is much bigger than any that we ever faced.Ē
    The Admiral Kuznetsov had the misfortune to be launched in 1985 and commissioned in 1991, just as the Soviet Union was collapsing. While the Admiral Kuznetzov entered service in the Russian Navy, the only other Admiral Kuznetsov-class ship built, the Varyag, was not completed and sat unfinished in Ukraine for a decade before being sold to the Chinese. While the ex-Varyag has been extensively refitted by the PLAN, it still inherits the deficiencies of the Admiral Kuznetsov-class, and entirely lacks the power projection capabilities of modern US carriers Given these deficiencies and the PLANís lack of experience operating aircraft carriers, it is unlikely that the ex-Varyag will ever be used operationally. Itís much more likely that it will be used exclusively as for training purposes, which despite its limitations is an achievement sure to be heavily leveraged for domestic consumption within China.
    Rest easy. China's carrier is more trouble for them than it is for us. Honestly, if this carrier is such a huge threat, why did Russia sell it to them?
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Just one aircraft carrier, one small, outdated, aircraft carrier that will probably completed with a full crew in at least a decade.
    Who is that expert anyways?
    The US spends more on its defense budget than the next 20 or so highest defense-spending nations combined.
    Calm down and stop listening to idiots prattling on talking points.

    bonds are a much deadlier weapon in the hands of the Chinese than an aircraft carrier. that, and our own stupidity. we may decide to yield the field.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    anybody see an aircraft which appeared to have crashed?
    the one i saw was intact
    i find it incredible that the drone apparently did not self destruct. this is either a major malfunction or a massive oversight.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    All nations have been spying on each other even be Mata Hari. Take a look at a web site that shows how many satellites are orbiting the earth, it will amaze you! But then we have cameras everywhere here from the latreen, the lunchroom, school buses, the intersections and every corner of every business in the world. You can buy spy equipment in Toys R Us, Radio Shack so don't complain because YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    How do you know its just one ? ...Ill tell you this, its hard for me to believe that we know what china spends on defense. I find it hard to believe what your saying...when the country has had nuclear capability for decades...and we dont know how many warheads they have...I do know they have missles that can hit the US...
    They have about 400 nukes, compared to Russia's 12000 and the US's 5113. In addition, even if Chinese nukes are launched, the Aegis and such anti-ICBM systems will destroy at least half of them
    China revealed only one aircraft carrier being built (one very small, outdated one), and it would be impossible to hide another aicraft carrier.
    Stop following talking points.

    To give you a tip: There's something much more fearful and dangerous than nukes. It's Chemical and Biological weapons. Nuclear effects are shorter-lived than chemical weapons, and they can spread across entire continents.
    The reason why they're so underdeveloped compared to nukes is that the countries actually respect the mutual agreement not to have them. If they were developed as much as nukes, it would make the Cold War look like a snowball fight
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