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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Is that new? and its not anymore dangerous than us making china the next greatest threat to the entire world...actually it pales in comparison...
    Propping up China economically pales in comparison to creating a stand off between one country that has nukes and is prepared to use them, and another that may be developing them. It also pales in comparison to causing a disruption to the oil sector which fuels all our still-fragile economies.

    Mark my words, Iran and Israel will be the lynch pin to the chaos of the coming years.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Propping up China economically pales in comparison to creating a stand off between one country that has nukes and is prepared to use them, and another that may be developing them. It also pales in comparison to causing a disruption to the oil sector which fuels all our still-fragile economies.


    Mark my words, Iran and Israel will be the lynch pin to the chaos of the coming years.


    I was not referring to economics temporal...china is building the biggest military in the world as we speak...it has nuclear capability for decades and we dont know exactly how many. Russia and china have not been friends..russia is afraid of china...and they have snuggling closer and closer...if russia and china form a coalition against US down the road..were in deep doodoo...you will hope and pray for it to be iran and israel...

    Aside from that I dont see israel having any other choices and we better stick with them...
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I was not referring to economics temporal...china is building the biggest military in the world as we speak...it has nuclear capability for decades and we dont know exactly how many. Russia and china have not been friends..russia is afraid of china...and they have snuggling closer and closer...if russia and china form a coalition against US down the road..were in deep doodoo...you will hope and pray for it to be iran and israel...

    Aside from that I dont see israel having any other choices and we better stick with them...
    China's army is full of underequipped, ill-trained, and undersupplied 2 million soldiers. In a war with the US, most of these soldiers will be useless, unable to attack as they are impossible to transport overseas in any meaningful invasion. Both China's navy and air force, but its air force in particular is very underequipped and outdated. The US and China is separated by a large ocean, which provides huge problems for logistics. If a war does happen, then it will mostly be between aerial and some naval units.
    Russia's military too, is inept, which was demonstrated in the Georgian war. Its navy is crumbling, and although its air force is still formidable, it is no match for USAF and the US navy. If a war happens between Russia and the US, then like China, will mostly be limited to air and navy, which will be devastating though. There is also a low chance of the US landing troops at Kamchatka, and an even lower chance of Russian troops landing at Alaska.

    All in all, a war is highly unlikely to happen, and even if one happens (excluding nuclear, biological, or chemical wars), it is unlikely to cause damages as much as the ones featured in films
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I was not referring to economics temporal...china is building the biggest military in the world as we speak...it has nuclear capability for decades and we dont know exactly how many. Russia and china have not been friends..russia is afraid of china...and they have snuggling closer and closer...if russia and china form a coalition against US down the road..were in deep doodoo...you will hope and pray for it to be iran and israel...
    We are China's economic right hand. They are not going to attack us lest they risk destruction of their own source of capital.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Aside from that I dont see israel having any other choices and we better stick with them...
    This sentiment will be the death of us all.

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    China's army is full of under-equipped, ill-trained, and under-supplied 2 million soldiers. In a war with the US, most of these soldiers will be useless, unable to attack as they are impossible to transport overseas in any meaningful invasion. Both China's navy and air force, but its air force in particular is very under-equipped and outdated. The US and China is separated by a large ocean, which provides huge problems for logistics. If a war does happen, then it will mostly be between aerial and some naval units.
    “Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2011.”
    Every year the report, which is submitted to Congress, creates grist for China watchers who look for rising tensions between the United States and China. This year was a particularly rocky one between the countries, so interest has intensified.

    Over all, the report described what is generally known:

    China’s People’s Liberation Army — with some 1.25 million ground troops, the largest in the world — is on track to achieve its goal of building a modern, regionally focused force by 2020. The Chinese military remains focused on Taiwan, which it claims as part of its sovereign territory, and it has deployed as many as 1,200 short-range missiles aimed in its direction. Moreover, it is developing antiship ballistic missiles, potentially capable of attacking American aircraft carriers.

    It is also developing its own aircraft carriers, and is already in sea trials with a refitted Soviet-era carrier from Ukraine — a development the report anticipated, but which occurred after it was printed. Finally, China is developing a new-generation stealth jet fighter, the J-20, which it boldly tested in Beijing in January during a visit by Robert M. Gates, then the defense secretary.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/world/25military.html

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    China's army is full of underequipped, ill-trained, and undersupplied 2 million soldiers. In a war with the US, most of these soldiers will be useless, unable to attack as they are impossible to transport overseas in any meaningful invasion. Both China's navy and air force, but its air force in particular is very underequipped and outdated. The US and China is separated by a large ocean, which provides huge problems for logistics. If a war does happen, then it will mostly be between aerial and some naval units.
    Russia's military too, is inept, which was demonstrated in the Georgian war. Its navy is crumbling, and although its air force is still formidable, it is no match for USAF and the US navy. If a war happens between Russia and the US, then like China, will mostly be limited to air and navy, which will be devastating though. There is also a low chance of the US landing troops at Kamchatka, and an even lower chance of Russian troops landing at Alaska.

    All in all, a war is highly unlikely to happen, and even if one happens (excluding nuclear, biological, or chemical wars), it is unlikely to cause damages as much as the ones featured in films
    WAS!!!!! it improves dramatically everyday...they are pouring billions into their military and they are building aircraftcarriers as we speak...I was referencing tomorrow with china...15 to 20 yrs and that expert predictions not mine...

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    The CRASH of this drone gave away that we were spying.

    Whatever happend to the 11 SPIES who were caputured and are now presumed dead - geesh - didn't THAT give away that we were spying? What did they do - pop up in the balmy waters off of the Florida coast today or something?

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    anybody see an aircraft which appeared to have crashed?
    the one i saw was intact
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    The article is hyperbole.
    I can find a dozen holes in it, but I'll point out only the most important ones:
    1) Never heard of Chinese propaganda?
    2) It mentions a regionally focused force. Never knew US was anywhere near China
    3) 1200 short-range missiles isn't much when you consider the tens of thousands in the DMZ. There are also interceptor missiles to shoot down missiles (kind of ironic)
    4) The hyped carrier killer is worthless and will be ineffective. Just ask RoccoR or Oozlefinch
    5) The aircraft carrier they're building is very outdated, and won't be completed in at least 5 years. The US, in contrast, has 11, all very modern and powerful
    6) The J-20 doesn't compare to the F-22 or even the F-19 or the MiGs.

    Just another article building on hype and hyperbole
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    Re: Drone crash unmasks U.S. spying effort in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    We'd shoot em down like clay pigeons, duh
    and then their drone base would have a tragic accident.

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