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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Asking for evidence is the same thing as following blindly?

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    You should keep up. Like I wrote before there has been evidence posted here at DP that Holder lied. I guess you and the other libs here just don't want to admit it.

    Notice the date on the Department of Justice website that proves Holder knew about Fast and Furious and the date he said he first heard about it before changing his story from "a few weeks earlier" to a "couple of months earlier." The truth is it more than a couple of years earlier Holder knew about the operation.

    Welcome to the United States Department of Justice

    Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference
    CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009

    excerpt from Holder's speech:

    Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.
    Holder Admits Lies in Fast and Furious, Refuses to Resign

    In May (2011) Holder testified before Congress — under oath — that he had learned about the gun-running scheme only “in the last few weeks.” But last week, he changed his story after it became well known via the Justice Department’s own documents that his claim was completely false.

    “In my testimony before the House committee, I did say ‘a few weeks.’ I probably could have said ‘a couple of months,’” Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 8. “I don’t think that what I said in terms of using the term ‘a few weeks’ was inaccurate, based on what happened.”

    So it wasn't two weeks or even two months earlier Holder knew about Operation Fast and Furious it was more than two years earlier and holder himself presented the information about the program at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference in Cuernavaca, Mexico.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    His defense is lying by ommision.

    AKA define "few". Now define few compared to all the weeks that have even exsisted in the world. 2 years worth of weeks now = few. And "probably" a couple of months does not equal "It was 2 months"

    This lying by ommision bullcrap should not be accepted and him and everyone involved needs to be in prison. These are true terrorists using snuff tactics to rule political scenes by fear.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    His defense is lying by ommision.

    AKA define "few". Now define few compared to all the weeks that have even exsisted in the world. 2 years worth of weeks now = few. And "probably" a couple of months does not equal "It was 2 months"

    This lying by ommision bullcrap should not be accepted and him and everyone involved needs to be in prison. These are true terrorists using snuff tactics to rule political scenes by fear.
    How often are government criminals actually held accountable?

    Way too often the only punishment is being asked to resign(with full benefits probably)

    They rarely do jail time because those who judge them see themselves on the other side of the gavel.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Anyone else listen to this on C-SPAN yesterday? Amazing. Holder's arrogance, lying, and obfuscation is just beyond belief. This man in my opinion needs to be in jail, and we need to find out what the WH knew. What say you all?


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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    You should keep up. Like I wrote before there has been evidence posted here at DP that Holder lied. I guess you and the other libs here just don't want to admit it.

    Notice the date on the Department of Justice website that proves Holder knew about Fast and Furious and the date he said he first heard about it before changing his story from "a few weeks earlier" to a "couple of months earlier." The truth is it more than a couple of years earlier Holder knew about the operation.

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    Holder Admits Lies in Fast and Furious, Refuses to Resign




    So it wasn't two weeks or even two months earlier Holder knew about Operation Fast and Furious it was more than two years earlier and holder himself presented the information about the program at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference in Cuernavaca, Mexico.
    Two months *IS* "a few weeks"

    And it is dishonest of you to claim that Holder knew about the details of F&F that have been recently revealed as long as two years ago

    It is also dishonest to claim that he hid information that you also claim he revealed two years ago at a conference.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Two months *IS* "a few weeks"

    And it is dishonest of you to claim that Holder knew about the details of F&F that have been recently revealed as long as two years ago

    It is also dishonest to claim that he hid information that you also claim he revealed two years ago at a conference.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Snore. Get over it. It's an idiotic witch hunt. If this was cause for prosecution the entire Bush administration would be in a super max facility.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Can you not read? It's either that or you are big time in denial. It amazes me that you refuse to see the facts in front of you. So what's new?
    Don't bother debating him, he's shilling for the Chicago crime syndicate that lives in DC.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Why wouldn't he be arrogant, he's got a president who knows he's guilty but still in his corner.

    Oh absolutely. And welcome to our little corner of dysfunction here at DP....heh, heh....No one is going to be held accountable, so we might as well call the family of the border patrol officer and tell them sorry for your loss, but tough luck....


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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Snore. Get over it. It's an idiotic witch hunt. If this was cause for prosecution the entire Bush administration would be in a super max facility.

    Dude, get over the Bush administration, we are nearly a full term past that for Christ sake. I am so sick of the defense that points to bad act from some administration prior, to justify bad acts today.

    You wouldn't let your children get away with that but its ok for the current crop of Obama zombies to throw this up as though it doesn't make you look childishly foolish....incredible.


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