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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What did he lie about, tell us? (with links to proof)

    Or is it just his blackness that bothers you?
    Bad post, must have a baseless argument if your'e already resorting to the race card. Oh by the way here's the press conference where they announced "Operation Gun Runner", in 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=-PNhYk9NuNc. Now why would the head of the DOJ not know about a program that obviously was not secret and was enforced under his watch?
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What did he lie about, tell us? (with links to proof)

    Or is it just his blackness that bothers you?
    What exactly is moderate about you?
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What did he lie about, tell us? (with links to proof)

    Or is it just his blackness that bothers you?
    It only took ten posts!

    Not a record, I'm sure, but definitely up there.
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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Actually, I saw a good portion of it. I also saw good portions of the times Antonio Gonzales testified under the bush administration. It's amazing how much more forthcoming Holder and the Obama administration were. I didn't see him claim "I don't recall" a single time. I think this program was screwed up and not handled well but why you think that means he needs to resign or why that means he's lying I don't know. I'm guessing it's just partisan politics on your part.
    Yes, as we all know firing some attorneys (that work at the behest of the Pres) is on the same footing as an illegal gun running scheme that was designed to discredit gun dealers in order to get more gun control. Go ahead knock yourself out with that argument.

    Holder is lying sack of s#!t and every just-us dept official involved in this is right there in that same sack.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am not looking to compare the Bush administration v. the Obama administration. I don't think, unless they were testifying about the very same things that it is comparable at all.


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    You can't avoid the comparison when so many remember the positions held then. And yes, potential wrong doing and incompetence under examination is comparable regardless of particualr wrong doing and possible incmpetence.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You can't avoid the comparison when so many remember the positions held then. And yes, potential wrong doing and incompetence under examination is comparable regardless of particualr wrong doing and possible incmpetence.

    Trying to put the previous administration on trial for actions of this administration is sophistry, and transparent unguarded you know that this administration is in the wrong, and are only attempting to deflect, and obfuscate. Sorry Joe, your argument loses.


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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Trying to put the previous administration on trial for actions of this administration is sophistry, and transparent unguarded you know that this administration is in the wrong, and are only attempting to deflect, and obfuscate. Sorry Joe, your argument loses.


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    No. We tried to do that then, to which you defend them. So, the comparisin between your reaction now and then is appropriate.

    Rarely do your self proclimations work j.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. We tried to do that then, to which you defend them. So, the comparisin between your reaction now and then is appropriate.

    Rarely do your self proclimations work j.
    Just for my clarification.....what are you talking about?

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. We tried to do that then, to which you defend them. So, the comparisin between your reaction now and then is appropriate.

    Rarely do your self proclimations work j.
    How sad....This passes for substantive debate? My reaction is to that which is correct and doesn't rely on revision and lies to make my arguments. Have fun with that.

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    Re: Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Just for my clarification.....what are you talking about?
    I don't think he even knows anymore. Bound to happen after so many twists and turns.


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