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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Why is that?
    I believe that people need to endure the consequences of the choices they make in life. You should not be engaging in sexual activity with someone until you are of the age, the financial situation and the emotional stability to be prepared to potentially be a parent. That is, I am against the idea of casual sex. I always have been.

    I know that I have no interest in being a father. I would be a terrible parent. I am well aware of this. Therefore, even when I reach that point in a relationship where I would be willing to endure the consequences of the sexual act, I would prefer to avoid them. Therefore, after discussing the topic with the woman, I do engage in the use of contraceptives with the intent of preventing a potential pregnancy, but with the knowledge that if it doesn't work, I'll be marrying her and raising that child with her to the best of my ability to do so. Unlike many others who would suggest "alternative" methods of avoiding the responsibility/consequences I believe that one needs to own up to them and deal with them IF/WHEN they occur.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You make a great point about horomones. As a teen I was told repeatedly that my horomones were pretty far out of wack and I'd had various reactions to different birth control pills that had made them less than desireable for me. At 18, I didn't make the direct correllation between the moderately uncomfortable side effects of birth control and the fact that Plan B is like the Hulk of birth control pills. Considering the stress of the situation I can see why many girls with similar issues might not make the connection.
    If you were told and didn't make the connection on your own that proves that offering this behind the counter isn't going to make a difference. When you buy cold medicine behind the counter they don't tell you side effects. Heck, when I have gotten a new prescription at the pharmacy they ask if I have questions but they don't tell me the side effects. Your pharmacist doesn't know you are sensitive to BC. They are just going to give you the medicine.


    When I went with a friend for her to get the morning after pill, the doctor told her it was equivalent to taking 2 regular birth control pills twice 12 hours apart and that it could make you nauseous. She didn't warn anything like what Tess explained. My point is that I don't think seeing a busy pharmacist for them to say okay here you go, please read the instructions and know the side effects is going to make a difference. I really think the issue, if there is one, was that anyone under 17 could then get it. If someone needs help they can still ask their pharmacist, but I don't think it should really be required.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Obama: Morning-after pill decision 'common sense'


    What do you think? Should this pill be allowed to be sold next to the condoms? They are about $50, according to the article, so people most likely wouldn't be buying them as they do condoms. Also, think of how often the pharmacy is often open. I know that sometimes when I have a cold by the time I can get to the store the pharmacy is closed. The sooner you take this pill the more effective it is. So what do you think?


    i don't think it should be available otc, so i am ok with this.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Whats the difference between preventing right before/during versus after though? Note: Right after. This is obviously before you know if you would be getting pregnant.

    You believe that people need to endure the consequences. I think that if you use BC of any method than you are changing the circumstances to avoid the consequence and since you believe that a condom and maybe the pill is fine to use, what makes taking 2 pills instead of pills all the time different?

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't think it should be available otc, so i am ok with this.
    Why do you not think it should be offered otc?

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Why do you not think it should be offered otc?
    because i don't think very young girls should have access in normal circumstances. it's a difficult question, but i think that 13 or 14 yr olds should be making that decision with their parents.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger
    I believe that people need to endure the consequences of the choices they make in life.
    No, my question was why you think there is a difference in attempting to prevent pregnancy before and after the act, abortion excluded for the purposes of this discussion.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    abstinance only didn't work for the QUEEN of abstinance only a.k.a. sarah palin's family.
    True. It didn't work because the program wasn't followed by her daughter. I know what would have happened in my family in that case.... She would have been tossed out on her ass and told not to come back until they were married and raising the child, if at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Whats the difference between preventing right before/during versus after though? Note: Right after. This is obviously before you know if you would be getting pregnant.
    True, but it is AFTER the act. Whether it's right after, 12 hours later, or six weeks later is immaterial. The act has already been performed. The consequences/reprecussions have been EARNED. You had the fun, now you should have to potentially deal with what happens because of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    You believe that people need to endure the consequences. I think that if you use BC of any method than you are changing the circumstances to avoid the consequence and since you believe that a condom and maybe the pill is fine to use, what makes taking 2 pills instead of pills all the time different?
    The pill and the condom are attempts to stop the egg from being fertilized. It is my understanding that this pill is designed to keep a fertilized egg from becoming attached to the uterus. I am a believer that at the moment that egg is fertilized that life begins. I understand that's not the most popular opinion in the world these days. In my mind anything that is an attempt to keep that fertilized egg from growing is MURDER. Whether it's by aborting it or by keeping it from moving through the natural cycle required for it to grow.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No, my question was why you think there is a difference in attempting to prevent pregnancy before and after the act, abortion excluded for the purposes of this discussion.
    See my response to "lovetosing" above this one.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    thanks to the OP for bringing this to my attention
    i am going today to purchase this pill to take tomorrow when i visit my daughter
    hope she never needs to use it
    but if she does, i want it to be available to her in a timely manner


    concerned about the young women who might have to either endure an abortion or go to full term only because they were denied access to this drug when it could have avoided the results of an unintended pregnancy
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