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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So three times in four months is "regular birth control"?

    Again, on what planet?
    If you're only having sex three times in four months, it could be. Kind of like a condom.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Considering that Plan B is an acute dose of the hormones used in regular, daily birth control, which requires a prescription to get and some women cannot get that prescription due to health problems they have, yes. 3 times in four months using a drug that is described as "emergency" contraceptive is too much and needs to be left behind the counter so that the person using it that often understands the increased risk from using it that often (which I'm sure there is). At the very least the pharmacist can take a minute or two to explain the risks and offer alternatives to women who are taking using it as regular birth control.
    Ok let's use your example here.

    You're saying that a woman who uses it 3 times in 4 months is going to actually listen to a pharmacist talk about how bad it is?

    Here's a hint, she's using the plan B because she has ALREADY HAD unprotected sex. She doesn't want to get pregnant. The pharmacist can lay down any speech they want, that woman does NOT want to have the baby. Whether or not that is behind the counter or not is not going to stop it.

    I'm for it being behind the counter for those under age. I do believe parental consent should be required for something like this for underage people.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Considering that Plan B is an acute dose of the hormones used in regular, daily birth control, which requires a prescription to get and some women cannot get that prescription due to health problems they have, yes. 3 times in four months using a drug that is described as "emergency" contraceptive is too much and needs to be left behind the counter so that the person using it that often understands the increased risk from using it that often (which I'm sure there is). At the very least the pharmacist can take a minute or two to explain the risks and offer alternatives to women who are taking using it as regular birth control.

    How often do you think women fear getting pregnant? Do you think that all single women or women of childbearing age just go out and have sex every night or every other night? The girl I know had sex very little. Those times for her wanting to take Plan B most likely also corresponded with those nights that she had sex without a condom.
    It was claimed that Plan B would be used as "regular birth control". Obviously it would not.

    Whether it is "too much" is a meaningless statement, as it is not supported with any evidence that such use would have a detrimental effect on a persons' health. My brother has diabetes and, as a result, had more medical emergencies than the three times in four months cited above. Is that "too much?"

    You're damn right it's "too much", but that's life. What are you going to do; Ban medical emergencies?

    Face it. You're "too much", and you're being "sure there is" an increased risk (without any cite to back it up) is nothing more than your own squeamishness about someone elses sex life.

    Now, can you imagine a girl who was able to get the money anytime she needed it and who had unprotected sex more than once a week who decided Plan B would work better for her than regular birth control pills? Some like their lives of ignorant bliss, believing nothing will happen to them. Then they get scared and use the quick fix to deal with what may become a problem, with no regard for the future consequences of those actions.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    If you were to take the morning after pill about 3 times a year, you would probably have some sort of lasting negative effects. Have they tested this yet? Does anyone know?

    Also, they said took it once and thought about taking it 1 or 2 more times in 4-5 months. That makes it 2 to 3 times in 4-5 months. For this type of medicine, that is not healthy.
    You have no evidence to back up that claim. How exactly do you think this drug passed FDA standards to be made available without a prescription?

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    You have no evidence to back up that claim. How exactly do you think this drug passed FDA standards to be made available without a prescription?
    Really? Do you think that might be why after I wrote the sentence you bolded, I wrote Have they tested this yet? Also in the EXACT sentence you bolded I wrote PROBABLY.


    Also, the FDA tests things for its typical and prescribed usage. If you are using it differently than prescribed then it has not been tested.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Really? Do you think that might be why after I wrote the sentence you bolded, I wrote Have they tested this yet? Also in the EXACT sentence you bolded I wrote PROBABLY.


    Also, the FDA tests things for its typical and prescribed usage. If you are using it differently than prescribed then it has not been tested.
    You have no reason to even say that is "probably" true. That's your wishful thinking showing. Once again, this is not a prescription drug. When something is offered over the counter, gee you might assume that people will take it more than once in their life. I assure you the FDA thought of this possibility long before you did, and it has been deemed safe to do so. So to answer your question, yes they have tested it. Of course.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    You have no reason to even say that is "probably" true. That's your wishful thinking showing. Once again, this is not a prescription drug. When something is offered over the counter, gee you might assume that people will take it more than once in their life. I assure you the FDA thought of this possibility long before you did, and it has been deemed safe to do so. So to answer your question, yes they have tested it. Of course.
    We're not talking about just a couple of times throughout a person's life. This is the same drugs as birth control, which requires a prescription. Birth control can cause blood clots. If a woman is taking this, even as a backup to birth control, she can easily be getting way more than the recommended dose of the hormones they have. Some women are really bad at remembering to take their birth control pills. I was one of them before I found out I shouldn't have been taking them at all. I can easily see a woman like this figuring that she can use Plan B for those months that maybe she forgot a pill or took a couple out of schedule, just in case.

    Not to mention, I'm wondering if they actually did do any tests on this being mixed with different types of birth control.

    Just because it is the FDA, doesn't mean they have thought about everything.

    Hell, most doctors I've come across have never heard of my blood disease. I usually know more about it than they do. Most of them have to look the information up. Then I get tested for a couple other ones that I already know I don't have and they finally come back with the same answers "you shouldn't take certain types of birth control, your pregnancies will be high risk, and you can't give blood, besides that you are completely healthy".
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    No, Roguenuke you are obviously more qualified to decide if this drug is safe than the FDA. It's not recommended as a primary form of birth control or routine use. You have no evidence that people are using it this way besides your speculations. Pulling it off the shelves because somebody somewhere might abuse it makes absolutely no sense and would clearly do more harm than good. I'll say it again, and it's still true. The average person could do much more harm to themselves by abusing ibuprofen or tylenol. It would make more sense, but still be absolutely retarded to argue to pull these drugs off the shelves.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    No, Roguenuke you are obviously more qualified to decide if this drug is safe than the FDA. It's not recommended as a primary form of birth control or routine use. You have no evidence that people are using it this way besides your speculations. Pulling it off the shelves because somebody somewhere might abuse it makes absolutely no sense and would clearly do more harm than good. I'll say it again, and it's still true. The average person could do much more harm to themselves by abusing ibuprofen or tylenol. It would make more sense, but still be absolutely retarded to argue to pull these drugs off the shelves.
    It's not on the shelves right now. It is behind the counter.

    The average person does do harm to themselves by abusing ibuprofen and Tylenol.

    The average person also wouldn't need to pick up pseudoephedrine from behind the counter either, since most people are not making meth, yet we still have to get it from behind there.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Obama: Morning-after pill decision 'common sense'


    What do you think? Should this pill be allowed to be sold next to the condoms? They are about $50, according to the article, so people most likely wouldn't be buying them as they do condoms. Also, think of how often the pharmacy is often open. I know that sometimes when I have a cold by the time I can get to the store the pharmacy is closed. The sooner you take this pill the more effective it is. So what do you think?


    Plan-B is a powerful drug. It should remain behind the counter.

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