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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Yes, higher doses of hormones have higher risks of side effects generally. But the list of common side effects for birth control pills (no matter what specific type of estrogen or progestin are in them) are the same. Look it up. The lawsuits against Yaz and Yasmine are for blood clots, one of the possible side effects of all birth control pills.

    Do you have evidence that anybody uses plan B monthly? Any evidence that the risks to her (besides pregnancy) would be greater than taking regular birth control pills?

    People might not read the side effects about ibuprofen and tylenol either. Nobody thinks that's a good enough reason to offer it behind the counter only. I'll say it again, if somebody wanted to kill themselves, overdosing on tylenol would be a much better bet than plan B or any other kind of birth control.
    Death is not the only side effect worth considering. You're correct that it would be more difficult to kill yourself with BC/Plan B than with Tylenol, but taken as prescribed, you're far more likely to have side effects from BC/Plan B.

    The short-term risks of taking Plan B repeatedly are mostly amplification of the known side effects. The long-term risks are unknown. But some emergency contraceptives aren't hormone-based at all. Ella is made of some sort of acetate, I believe. No one has any idea what the consequences of that are when abused, either.

    Yes, there are people who do this, just like there's people who abuse anything.

    I'm glad your experience has been relatively problem-free. However, that has not been the case for all of us. A very large minority of women have unacceptable or severe side-effects from BC. It should absolutely continue to be prescribed by a doctor.

    You can go to Planned Parenthood and get your consultation and prescription on a sliding scale. Free, if you have either your own insurance, their coverage, or are under a certain earning bracket. It's not as though it's incredibly difficult.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    I never argued that regular birth control pills should be offered without a prescription, did I? Plan B on the other hand, is already available without a prescription and that makes perfect sense to me.
    Last edited by kerussll; 12-19-11 at 05:40 AM.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

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    As someone who does not believe in the idea of "on demand" abortion, I am 100% in favor of this ruling. Pregnancy is a potential consequence of sexual intercourse. If you don't want to run that risk, don't have sex. If you do have sex, you need to accept that there are potential consequences of that action. As such, I am totally against any form of "morning after" pill, whether it be prescription, over the counter, etc....
    What about the case of a rapist raping a woman. You would deny her a morning after pill?
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What about the case of a rapist raping a woman. You would deny her a morning after pill?
    Why look for logic and reason where it does not exist?
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why look for logic and reason where it does not exist?
    That seems like a reason not to read your posts :P

    And Dan--no I wouldnt. Id also be for weapons training focusing on crippling a rapist where it counts.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What about the case of a rapist raping a woman. You would deny her a morning after pill?
    Yes, but only IF and AFTER she has reported the crime, and agreed to press charges & testify against her assailant (under penalty of perjury) if/when he is caught. Once the proper evidence has been collected the hospital or medical clinic should be allowed to give her the pill.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    I never argued that regular birth control pills should be offered without a prescription, did I? Plan B on the other hand, is already available without a prescription and that makes perfect sense to me.
    I don't know how you can support Plan B being offered on the shelves but not regular birth control. Heck, you don't go to you doctor to get new pills so whats the point? And you are saying plan B is very safe. Well Plan B is just a high dose of regular pills. Where is the logic in that?

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    I don't know how you can support Plan B being offered on the shelves but not regular birth control. Heck, you don't go to you doctor to get new pills so whats the point? And you are saying plan B is very safe. Well Plan B is just a high dose of regular pills. Where is the logic in that?
    Maybe you should read the FDA's report on why it's safe. I've explained to you why a one time dose of hormones is safer than taking them continuously, and given you my reasons why I'm not advocating the system for regular birth control be changed, but if you don't want to listen there's not much more to talk about.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Maybe you should read the FDA's report on why it's safe. I've explained to you why a one time dose of hormones is safer than taking them continuously, and given you my reasons why I'm not advocating the system for regular birth control be changed, but if you don't want to listen there's not much more to talk about.
    What stops someone from using it as a regular birth control. Using it multiple times if it is just on the shelves? It now becomes very easy to use it as a, granted very expensive, form of regular birth control. Not just a one time thing.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    What stops someone from using it as a regular birth control. Using it multiple times if it is just on the shelves? It now becomes very easy to use it as a, granted very expensive, form of regular birth control. Not just a one time thing.
    Common sense? What stops someone from taking a whole bottle of tylenol? We don't need to treat people like idiots.

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