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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    I have no problem with contraceptives used BEFORE the sexual act is carried out. I have MAJOR problems with them being used AFTER the act. I explained this earlier.
    Yes, you've said that, but you have not in any way explained why you feel this way. So let me take a stab at it: Either you don't understand that plan B and regular birth control pills work in EXACTLY the same way, and neither affect an existing pregnancy, or you just have a big problem with women taking charge of their lives and not being forever punished for having sex like you want them to be. I would bet a lot of money it's the latter. Too bad, so sad, it's not the 50's anymore and society has evolved past this way of thinking. See ya

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Perhaps because the vast majority of fertilized eggs never implant, and thus never become fetuses or live babies. Without implantation you cannot have ongoing development and life.
    I hardly see how that matters to my point.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Its a $50 pill. I don't think its quite like buying Tylenol.
    Money's not an issue for everyone, though.

    I agree with the tightness of it's availability: it is serious medication and should not be taken lightly or without being ok'd by a dr first. If such medication is available without a prescription then it would make sense to have all birth control pills availabel this way though *none* of them are and I've yet to see anyone argue that they should be.

    Imagine how much easier it would be for women to keep up with their birth control pills if they just had to swing into teh store and buy the next month's supply with their maxi-pads and femme wipes.
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I hardly see how that matters to my point.
    Well if you don't want to address the physical science and the common sense of the issue I guess you wouldn't...
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Money's not an issue for everyone, though.

    I agree with the tightness of it's availability: it is serious medication and should not be taken lightly or without being ok'd by a dr first. If such medication is available without a prescription then it would make sense to have all birth control pills availabel this way though *none* of them are and I've yet to see anyone argue that they should be.

    Imagine how much easier it would be for women to keep up with their birth control pills if they just had to swing into teh store and buy the next month's supply with their maxi-pads and femme wipes.
    Plan B does not require a prescription. It involves going to the pharmacy and asking for it like cold medicine.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Well if you don't want to address the physical science and the common sense of the issue I guess you wouldn't...
    I'm afraid I already did. Not sure why you think moving the goal post would be helpful, but meh..
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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I see what you are saying, but calling it pro-abortion is dishonest. It makes it sound like you advocate it. I advocate choice. That's it.
    It is a choice to keep the child as well right? Then you support that as well?

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It is a choice to keep the child as well right? Then you support that as well?

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    Of course. I support the freedom of any woman to choose one or the other.

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Yes, you've said that, but you have not in any way explained why you feel this way. So let me take a stab at it: Either you don't understand that plan B and regular birth control pills work in EXACTLY the same way, and neither affect an existing pregnancy, or you just have a big problem with women taking charge of their lives and not being forever punished for having sex like you want them to be. I would bet a lot of money it's the latter. Too bad, so sad, it's not the 50's anymore and society has evolved past this way of thinking. See ya
    I have explained it several times already. At the moment that egg is fertilized it IS a life in my mind. Since one of the ways this drug apparently works is to keep the fertilized egg (a life) from naturally bonding to the uterus, that's a problem in my mind. Yes, that can happen naturally as well, but then let's let nature take its course and see what happens, shall we?

    As for the punishment aspect... yes there is some of that in there. I do think you miss that I would force the father to marry her and support her and the child as well, so it's not just her that would be punished. I'm all for anything that promotes the reduction in casual sex (protected or not).

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    Re: Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I have explained it several times already. At the moment that egg is fertilized it IS a life in my mind. Since one of the ways this drug apparently works is to keep the fertilized egg (a life) from naturally bonding to the uterus, that's a problem in my mind. Yes, that can happen naturally as well, but then let's let nature take its course and see what happens, shall we?

    As for the punishment aspect... yes there is some of that in there. I do think you miss that I would force the father to marry her and support her and the child as well, so it's not just her that would be punished. I'm all for anything that promotes the reduction in casual sex (protected or not).
    1) Do you not realize that is also true for regular birth control pills that you inexplicably have no problem with? I'll say it one more time. Plan B and regular bc pills are EXACTLY the SAME THING!!! Same hormones, working in the same way. Why you have a problem with only one makes no sense at all.

    2) Oh, dear lord this just got even more ridiculous. I'd love to see how you plan to FORCE people to get married and why you believe that would be a positive environment for the child. New winner for stupidest thing I have read on here. People have free will. They are going to have sex with who they want, use whatever contraceptives they want, and marry whoever they want. There's not a damn thing you can do about it. And that's a good thing.
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