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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    And yet over a dropout's entire working life, he or she receives $71,000 more on average in cash and in-kind benefits than paid in taxes. The societal costs may include imprisonment, government-paid medical insurance and food stamps.

    In contrast, high school graduates pay $236,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits, and college degree holders pay $885,000 more in taxes than they receive.
    So, is it time to reexamine the current model of a one size fits all system being run by the state, or, worse, by the federal government, and tied to the goal of getting all of the students to pass the big test?

    Could it be possible that students are not all the same?

    Is it possible that reforms that have an initial cost could pay for themselves with big dividends?

    Ask any sixth grade teacher which of his/her students will drop out, then follow those students through high school, and I'd be willing to bet the predictions would be at least 90% accurate. Students don't start dropping out in high school. It starts much sooner than that.
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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    My first college was a non accredited, Christian college.
    Your experience aside it's a problem. We recently went through this sending the kid to the local community college and making sure what will transfer to the other colleges he was considering afterwards.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Your experience aside it's a problem. We recently went through this sending the kid to the local community college and making sure what will transfer to the other colleges he was considering afterwards.
    Going to a community college is cheaper, and usually the credits will transfer. Also, many of the instructors have doctorates instead of being GAs. That is also an advantage.
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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Exactly whose fault is it that they didn't graduate? Mine? Yours? No, it is their own fault. They can always go back and get a GED, or maybe even join the military, if the military still accepts dropouts. No sympathy here.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Exactly whose fault is it that they didn't graduate? Mine? Yours? No, it is their own fault. They can always go back and get a GED, or maybe even join the military, if the military still accepts dropouts. No sympathy here.
    Right now they aren't accepting drop outs. They won't even accept a GED without some college.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Right now they aren't accepting drop outs. They won't even accept a GED without some college.
    Then what did we use to say in school? Tough noogies? You reap what you sew.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Then what did we use to say in school? Tough noogies? You reap what you sew.
    There are repercussions to ones actions. I was just noting the current situation.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    When I was growing up alot of kids dropped out of school because they had to go to work and help out...I was one of those kids.
    They are not all bums and convicts.

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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    When I was growing up alot of kids dropped out of school because they had to go to work and help out...I was one of those kids.
    They are not all bums and convicts.
    Just to summarize, some drop outs are already mature enough to start life.
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    Re: Cost of High School Dropouts Draining US Taxpayer

    These are all averages, we should judge people on a case by case basis. The root of the problem is laziness. I know some dropouts who went on to learn a trade and became very successful (one had to drop out so that he could work full time and support the child he had with his girlfriend in high school).

    I know some students at my university that enroll in easy majors like art. They take out thousands of dollars in student loans and live like hippies (the don't come to class and make failing grades). They graduate and then go out of school with tons of debt and no job (due to their fields being saturated). They cost the American taxpayer as well. A lazy mentality and a lazy lifestyle is wrong, it costs the taxpayers money, but each person should be judged on a case by case basis instead of applying a mentality to an entire group of people.
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