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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And they got caught, and they will have to pay back the money, plus fines and interest. So it pretty much worked.

    You think corporations have never had people embezzle from them? If someone embezzles for eight years and gets caught, do you conclude that the corporate form is hopeless and should be abandoned?
    You are just TRIPPING over yourself defending that welfare system arent you. And typically...instead of recognizing...yep...there are abuses in the system and it is causing the truly needy to go without, you just HAVE to go all evil corporations on us. Cuz...you cant control your knee from jerking into your face. How pathetic.

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You are just TRIPPING over yourself defending that welfare system arent you. And typically...instead of recognizing...yep...there are abuses in the system and it is causing the truly needy to go without, you just HAVE to go all evil corporations on us. Cuz...you cant control your knee from jerking into your face. How pathetic.
    No, not at all. I'm just a realist and recognize that every system known to man is vulnerable to fraud. Thus I don't have a knee jerk reaction like, "It makes it very hard to happily support social spending programs when they are so readily used and often abused," on the basis of one egregious example. Any more than I would toss out the whole corporate form on the basis of an egregious example of embezzlement. Capiche?

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Iirc, from the last one of these cases, they ask about income only, not about assets.
    Even if they applied for bankruptcy, they would be allowed to keep their house.
    Not in NC. In NC, they ask about all your assets, including bank accounts, cars or other big/expensive items you own, and any items that could be liquidated to provide you more money.

    Not sure how exactly WA works, but since they are getting in trouble for her not declaring her bank accounts that had money in them, I'm pretty sure it is about the same way.
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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

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    They should be flogged then placed in Stocks for all to see and spit on.
    You can't blame them for the government being screwed up.
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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not in NC. In NC, they ask about all your assets, including bank accounts, cars or other big/expensive items you own, and any items that could be liquidated to provide you more money.
    Not sure how exactly WA works, but since they are getting in trouble for her not declaring her bank accounts that had money in them, I'm pretty sure it is about the same way.
    Perhaps the rules vary state to state or perhaps I am mis-remembering. I am thinking of the case not too long ago where a lotto winner stayed on his public assistance and he could because the criteria didn't include his assets. But details make a lot of difference.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, they bail out their companies so they can continue to receive their large year-end bonuses.... Oh, that was another fraud.

    No, they run for the Republican nomination for President .... oh, we aren't discussing Newt...
    My comment to you in the other thread still stands, plus you are hacking here.
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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, not at all. I'm just a realist and recognize that every system known to man is vulnerable to fraud. Thus I don't have a knee jerk reaction like, "It makes it very hard to happily support social spending programs when they are so readily used and often abused," on the basis of one egregious example. Any more than I would toss out the whole corporate form on the basis of an egregious example of embezzlement. Capiche?
    Oh...so THAT is what you were doing. And THATS why you couldnt help yourself dragging the evil democrat bribe machine into the mix. I wonder if you actually believe what you type.

    Of course...what was suggested was not kill the program but conduct a review of procedures so these kids of abuses are stopped.However I realize you have blinders on to anything other than complete utter kneejerk defense of all things liberal.

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...so THAT is what you were doing. And THATS why you couldnt help yourself dragging the evil democrat bribe machine into the mix. I wonder if you actually believe what you type.

    Of course...what was suggested was not kill the program but conduct a review of procedures so these kids of abuses are stopped.However I realize you have blinders on to anything other than complete utter kneejerk defense of all things liberal.
    Yeah, great point. One bad example out of millions absolutely calls for a system-wide review.

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, great point. One bad example out of millions absolutely calls for a system-wide review.
    How many more are out there? We just did this little dance recently and showed where there were literally tens of thousands of fraudulent cases in North Carolina alone. new York...FAR worse. We know California issues not food but credit cards with cash amounts and we have seen where people use their taxpayer credit card at strip clubs. We have seen articles recently from the abuses in Social Security with numerous fly by night offices springing up and billing recipients for unneeded services...costs running in the BILLIONS. Every instance takes away from people truly in NEED. But nah...you keep doing your head in the tight stinky place routine to defend your precious systems while their INAPPROPRIATE use continues. Geeeezus...You are more Pete than the Pete.

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    Re: Feds: Couple claimed welfare, lived in $1.2M home

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't blame them for the government being screwed up.
    See, if any other person posted this I'd immediately think they were trolling.

    Him, he probably actually believes the couple is blameless.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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