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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I really wish conservatives would quit throwing around terms like class warfare, it just makes them look completely ignorant. Obama is a capitalist, he is not a socialist, he not Lenin, and he is not waging some war on behalf of the proletariat. He isn't even as left as FDR, hell he isn't even to the left of Bill Clinton.
    Which is why based upon his actual actions people realize the speech is nothing but political rhetoric.

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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Obama's favorite word = Fair

    The word fair is not in our constitution.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I really wish conservatives would quit throwing around terms like class warfare, it just makes them look completely ignorant. Obama is a capitalist, he is not a socialist, he not Lenin, and he is not waging some war on behalf of the proletariat. He isn't even as left as FDR, hell he isn't even to the left of Bill Clinton.
    You know you're too far left, when you type something like this and mean it.
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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Obama's favorite word = Fair

    The word fair is not in our constitution.
    You're right that "fair" is not in our consitution. That is why we have a progressive tax system. Thereefore, when the rich get taxed more, you and others should not complain because "fair" is not in our consitution.

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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You're right that "fair" is not in our consitution. That is why we have a progressive tax system. Thereefore, when the rich get taxed more, you and others should not complain because "fair" is not in our consitution.
    Actually, the fact that word fair is not in our constitution is not the reason we have a progressive tax system.

    The second thought you have is that I am against taxation when clearly I am not. I am for taxes so that our country can have a military and facilitate trade. What I am against is taxing people so that you can just spend the money on programs that should not be supported at the federal level. Raising the capital gains tax in order to redistribute the wealth doesn't work for me either. Furthermore, anytime they reduced the capital gains tax, that specific tax brought more revenue in. That is to include when Clinton lowered it from 28% to 20%, and when Bush lowered it from 20% to 15%.

    Taxing for the sake of redistributing the wealth of the country is wrong. Don't raise taxes on the wealthy so that you can give it to other people in the name of fairness.
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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Actually, the fact that word fair is not in our constitution is not the reason we have a progressive tax system.

    The second thought you have is that I am against taxation when clearly I am not. I am for taxes so that our country can have a military and facilitate trade. What I am against is taxing people so that you can just spend the money on programs that should not be supported at the federal level. Raising the capital gains tax in order to redistribute the wealth doesn't work for me either. Furthermore, anytime they reduced the capital gains tax, that specific tax brought more revenue in. That is to include when Clinton lowered it from 28% to 20%, and when Bush lowered it from 20% to 15%.
    Big picture here......what was that money used for? To create bubbles?

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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Big picture here......what was that money used for? To create bubbles?
    I think that is a fantastic question. What was that money used for?
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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I think that is a fantastic question. What was that money used for?
    O.K. I guess we will wait for an answer.

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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Which is why based upon his actual actions people realize the speech is nothing but political rhetoric.
    There was no rhetoric, it was a centrist speech by a centrist. In an earlier time, it could have been made by a Republican.
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    Re: Obama sees 'make or break' time for middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You know you're too far left, when you type something like this and mean it.
    Oh really? What did I say that was not true?

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