Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 74

Thread: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

  1. #61
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You are the most dense person on this board, I swear. Let me make this easier for you to understand.

    Please let me know if you think any of these would be aggressive threats to the US:

    1. If Iran caused explosions on American territory.
    2. If Iran murdered top American nuclear scientists.
    3. If Iran deployed sophisticated cyberattacks affecting American infrastructure and top nuclear research facilities.
    4. If Iran and Iranian politicians funded and supported an American anti-government revolutionary cult.
    5. If Iran invaded and occupied Mexico and Canada.
    If, if, if, if and if.

    Again, Iīm not interested in your goofy hypotheticals. Whatīs the matter with you???

  2. #62
    Sage
    Khayembii Communique's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Milwaukee, WI
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,887

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    You can't respond because you know they are aggressive threats that the US has perpetrated against Iran and don't want to admit it.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

  3. #63
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    You can't respond because you know they are aggressive threats that the US has perpetrated against Iran and don't want to admit it.
    If you want to talk about Iran Iīm certainly willing but Iīll not be sidetracked into your profoundly silly hypotheticals.

  4. #64
    Iconoclast
    DaveFagan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    wny
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:15 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    7,294

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you want to talk about Iran Iīm certainly willing but Iīll not be sidetracked into your profoundly silly hypotheticals.
    I do believe that Khayembii Communique has over estimated your mental abilities. All the items on his list are things that we, the good ol' USA, have done to Iran. Not hypothetical in the least. Of course you know that and are just pretending to stupidity for comedic effect. Hoo rah.

  5. #65
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I do believe that Khayembii Communique has over estimated your mental abilities. All the items on his list are things that we, the good ol' USA, have done to Iran. Not hypothetical in the least. Of course you know that and are just pretending to stupidity for comedic effect. Hoo rah.
    I wouldn't be so sure. I think he may seriously have needed someone to spell it out for him.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  6. #66
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last Seen
    01-03-16 @ 02:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,761
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Steve can have his opinion and we can have ours.
    Oh, so, let's hear how you propose that a war with Iran would turn out?? And what is the basis for that opinion?


    Do you really believe the world can ignore the Middle East and not get involved? Do you think the Middle East, and the Islamists, will ignore the US, Europe and the other democracies? They are there, as well as here, and we have to deal with it, threats of "embroilment" or not.
    Well, maybe if you believe the premise that terrorism is the result of jealousy and not an act of retaliation from oppression, then we cant just ignore the middle east.

    At this point, because the us had done so much against the ME already, we're likely well past the point where they would just leave us alone...

    So, ya, at this point we do have to deal with the problems we've created.

    I donīt believe we should concern ourselves too much with what China and Russia say. It seems that the West is running scared from what the Middle East might say, what the Russians might say, what the Chinese might say, and so on.
    Umm, first the russians, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_875659.html

    Next, china http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7L40IA20111004

    Neither of those blocs are to be messed with... Remember when the us started that little skirmish in south Ossetia ?? Well, the Russians rolled in with nuke launchers... They are NOT a joke.

    Again, the Chinese could destroy the us without ever firing a shot... We are that deep in debt, that they decide whether or not the US has an economy.

    Have the democracies become such wimps that we are afraid to call these third world ninnies what they actually are, and that if they dare raise a hand against us we will annihilate them?
    Generally yes, but not wanting war is not necessarily a sign of weakness.

    The West is leaderless right now and that makes the world a far more dangerous place. By BHO attempting to make the third world like him, that he is a sensitive liberal guy who admits Americaīs faults and just wants to get along, makes America, and the West, look weak and foolish. Denigrating ourselves does not make us more secure.
    I tend to agree here.



    Yes, the idea is to win at whatever costs. The US cannot be defeated militarily but it can be defeated any number of other ways and is in that process now. The leaders are weak, the people are weak, the culture is weak, the borders are weak, and the foreign policy is either non existent or counter productive. Being afraid of what other leaders might say just brings this point home yet again. Americans canīt even defend their own borders, or carry an official I.D. card, without an internal fuss being made. They have indeed become a sanctuary nation.
    Win against what?? You mean against the enemies the us creates through their actions??

    Do you have a link to that?

    Letīs not stray too far from the discussion.

    Yes, i agree that this whole body scan thing is a scam and an incredible over reaction against American civil liberties, But thatīs the price we all pay for being politically correct rather than smart.



    It seems you arrived at the logical conclusion.


    Which was my point, Everyone knows the US is weak and doesn't want any casualties in any confrontation. Any war involving the United States will eventually become political and the politicians, as well as too many of the people, will become frightened and weak and will soon just want to leave, Americans canīt even defend their own borders for crying out loud, for fear of offending someone. How pathetic is that? This does not go unnoticed in the international community, or by Allies or those who would want to do harm.
    I generally agree with all this, to a great extent the American people are defeated... As a generality they've grown accustomed to all the toys and trinkets, and in many ways kept juvenile and ignorant.

    Now, in ways war has already started with Iran, but russia and china have both been making attempts to block this...

    If there is talk of a serious threat to the US by a legitimate leader you mention the possibility of a cluster bomb in his immediate vicinity. If the talk continues, just do it, and mention to his successor that there are plenty more waiting to be used. Don't fool with these bastards and their sense of self preservation will soon overcome any aggressive tendencies they might harbor.
    Ya, that can work against SOME countries, but china for example has a military that FLUCTUATES the American population... The Russians are at a comparable technological development AND they do not back down. Putin, if he maintains power, is a killer. Look in his eyes.

    Iran is not really a threat to the us in any direct and significant way, neither was the rest of the middle east, though the middle east IS close to Israel, and it's pretty well accepted that Israel and us are close allies.

    Barrack Hussein Obama is either working against Americaīs interests or is irredeemably stupid. There is the possibility of both being true.
    Before I answer, with bush, I asked the similar question that he was either As stupid as he came across and believed his own tripe, OR he was simply an evil genius... Or it is possible that he was a mediocre puppet acting stupid, though he was aware of his "job" before hand.

    Similarly, Obama comes across as a lot smarter, and so. It seems more likely that he is knowingly working against American interests....
    .
    That may be overstating the case but under the present circumstances itīs the Chinese, the Islamists and the Latin Americans who are all interested in remaking the United States in their own light. Theyīll probably fight it out eventually, though in ways that will again be quite different from previous wars.
    It's really not overstating the case, though such actions would be a detriment to china as well, but they are better prepared to handle that shock.

    The southern border wars is a whole other issue...


    In fact all they do is mess around. Their future is grim as well.



    I doubt there is much Americans can do now to save the America that was. Perhaps it has to get worse before it can possibly get better but the way Americans are turning on each other, their reckless disregard for spending limits, the corruption in the government, the breakdown in the education system, the disappearing lack of pride in the American individualism, etc. does not bode well.

    And this is all very, very sad for the world. There is no place anyone can go to now to realize the dream that America once inspired.
    Ya, it's unfortunate, but the entire world is facing a great depression, it could be decades before the world returns to some level of positive economics, but it the trend does not turn, I don't believe that the constitution will be saved...

  7. #67
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I do believe that Khayembii Communique has over estimated your mental abilities. All the items on his list are things that we, the good ol' USA, have done to Iran. Not hypothetical in the least. Of course you know that and are just pretending to stupidity for comedic effect. Hoo rah.
    The US invading and occupying Canada is not a hypothetical?

    Are you certain you know what "hypothetical" means or do you really believe that happened?

  8. #68
    Sage
    Khayembii Communique's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Milwaukee, WI
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,887

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    The US invading and occupying Canada is not a hypothetical?
    Lol you still don't get it. I was talking about Iran invading and occupying Canada, I even explicitly wrote this.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

  9. #69
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:28 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,371

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Lol you still don't get it. I was talking about Iran invading and occupying Canada, I even explicitly wrote this.
    Lol who doesn't get what?

  10. #70
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Iran's Revolutionary Guards prepare for war

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Oh, so, let's hear how you propose that a war with Iran would turn out?? And what is the basis for that opinion?
    That would depend entirely on the American leadership and whether they genuinely intended to win a war or not. Right now, given present US leadership, I doubt they could defeat any hostile countries. They are too keen to "lead from behind" and a single casualty would create immediate public, and thus political, concern

    Well, maybe if you believe the premise that terrorism is the result of jealousy and not an act of retaliation from oppression, then we cant just ignore the middle east.
    Are those your two choices? There is no evidence that these are factors. We can look to see what the Jihadists are saying directly rather than have pundits guessing at the reasons.

    At this point, because the us had done so much against the ME already, we're likely well past the point where they would just leave us alone...
    This is another reason why America could lose. It is always Americaīs fault and the Jihadists have every reason to murder Americans. America has made a preemptive surrender. Perhaps, as a Norwegian leader once suggested regarding Islam in Norway (I believe it was Norway!), weīll be nice to them now so theyīll treat you kindly once they take control.
    So, ya, at this point we do have to deal with the problems we've created.
    No, you wonīt deal with the problem, the Jihadists will. This attitude gives them the control. They are the strong horse and America is the weak horse. You be fiddling with each others genitals at airports, thinking this will keep you secure, while being laughed at everywhere. The first terrorist who gets caught, deliberately probably, with an explosive suppository up his rear will really slow down those shuffling shoeless lineups.

    The US owes China trillions of dollars so it is China who has the problem. What do you fear from the Chinese and Russians?

    Neither of those blocs are to be messed with... Remember when the us started that little skirmish in south Ossetia ?? Well, the Russians rolled in with nuke launchers... They are NOT a joke.
    It seems that many Americans are frightened by everyone right now, and with some good reasons. This self loathing and bickering between each other, the fear of someone getting hurt in a war, etc. has taken its toll. Just when Americans needed strong leadership they opted for a "community organizer" from Chicago and the consequences are clear. Americans might do the same in the next election as well, and will then genuinely self destruct.

    Again, the Chinese could destroy the us without ever firing a shot... We are that deep in debt, that they decide whether or not the US has an economy.
    Yes, this debt has made America vulnerable and uncertain. No longer are they the land of the free and the home of the brave, the land of broad shoulders.

    And yet there is no talk of austerity, money is being spent on pie in the sky programs, the delays in Keystone project has cost Americans thousands of jobs, as well as a secure of energy, and the leadership dithers. What did Americans really expect? And now there are signs that it could be a tossup between Newt Gingrich and Barrak Obama for President! These are not a seemingly serious people.

    Generally yes, but not wanting war is not necessarily a sign of weakness.
    It is to your enemies.

    Win against what?? You mean against the enemies the us creates through their actions??
    America used to be the leader of the free world. Now this attitude is commonplace. The British once felt the same way, and indeed many still do. They lost their power but America was ready to assume it, and it was a peaceful transition between countries of shared philosophies as to human rights, etc. Now who is going to follow America?
    I generally agree with all this, to a great extent the American people are defeated... As a generality they've grown accustomed to all the toys and trinkets, and in many ways kept juvenile and ignorant.
    There is truth in that but it also applies to the Western democracies in general. But that doesn't mean we cannot be strong as well. We just have to quit accepting blame for all the problems in the world.
    Ya, that can work against SOME countries, but china for example has a military that FLUCTUATES the American population... The Russians are at a comparable technological development AND they do not back down. Putin, if he maintains power, is a killer. Look in his eyes.
    Then elect a leader who doesn't mind looking back.

    Iran is not really a threat to the us in any direct and significant way, neither was the rest of the middle east, though the middle east IS close to Israel, and it's pretty well accepted that Israel and us are close allies.
    All genuine democracies need to be close Allies.

    Before I answer, with bush, I asked the similar question that he was either As stupid as he came across and believed his own tripe, OR he was simply an evil genius... Or it is possible that he was a mediocre puppet acting stupid, though he was aware of his "job" before hand.
    He was none of these things. He was a good man trying to do the best he could under difficult circumstances. He lost a great deal of support when he let the debt grow and began unsustainable social programs.

    Similarly, Obama comes across as a lot smarter, and so. It seems more likely that he is knowingly working against American interests....
    There has been no evidence that BHO is actually any smarter. Both are well educated men, though Obamaīs scholastic records apparently remain a secret. Thatīs not so important anyway. It does often seem that Obama is working against American interests. The Keystone Pipeline is the most recent case in point.
    .
    The southern border wars is a whole other issue...
    And another area where the Obama administration would appear to be working against American interests.
    Ya, it's unfortunate, but the entire world is facing a great depression, it could be decades before the world returns to some level of positive economics, but it the trend does not turn, I don't believe that the constitution will be saved..
    Itīs time to be strong and not depend on the government for anything, no matter what the politicians promise. And Americans have to start supporting and trusting each other rather than trying have the government as a middleman between the people. This only creates conflict, and unscrupulous politicians will often use this to their benefit.
    Last edited by Grant; 12-08-11 at 01:11 PM.

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •