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U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

Conservative said:
No, seems you are reading impaired, Obama is losing all those states right now
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Nope, you're definately the reading impaired one ... the poll does not say that. The poll combines the results of all twelve states, it does not break it down by each state. It's entirely plausable that Obama wins some and he loses some; but overall among all twelve combined, he loses.

Do you understand now? I'm trying to help you here.
 
Conservative said:
how did Bush spend so much with Obama and a Democrat Congress? Who approved the 2009 budget? You seem to give the President a lot of blame and a lot of power while ignoring the current President who is held to a different standard
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Not all Americans hold Obama to a differant standard.

There is the fact that the Republican party had a White House administration and control of the Senate and House for 6 yrs to consider.
Tax cuts for the rich passed
Free trade passed
Bailouts approved
More jobs for the American people uhhh.... SORRY.

There is also the fact that the current President Obama promised change for average and main street Americans.
Yet all he has done is give the insurance companies more business and easier access to Medicare and Medicade, plus more business on the side.
Tax cuts for the rich extended fully
Free trade extended extended fully
More jobs for the American people..... WELL.... STILL WAITING.:peace
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Umm, Bush was the final approval. He's responsible for what he approves.
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And of course Congress had nothing to do with it. Bush created the continuing resolution and signed it without Congressional approval? how can Obama inherit something that he helped create? By the way where did the TARP repayment in 2009 show up?
 
presluc said:
Not all Americans hold Obama to a differant standard.

There is the fact that the Republican party had a White House administration and control of the Senate and House for 6 yrs to consider.
Tax cuts for the rich passed
Free trade passed
Bailouts approved
More jobs for the American people uhhh.... SORRY.

There is also the fact that the current President Obama promised change for average and main street Americans.
Yet all he has done is give the insurance companies more business and easier access to Medicare and Medicade, plus more business on the side.
Tax cuts for the rich extended fully
Free trade extended extended fully
More jobs for the American people..... WELL.... STILL WAITING.:peace
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Here we go again, tax cuts for the rich? How is a tax cut an expense to the govt? Please explain how anyone keeping more of what they earn is an expense? How about it, when you keep more of what you earn is that an expense to the govt?

The 2012 election won't be about Bush, it will be about the Obama results and I doubt that 24 Million unemployed/under employed Americans in NOV 2011 are singing the Obama praises.
 
Conservative said:
And of course Congress had nothing to do with it. Bush created the continuing resolution and signed it without Congressional approval? how can Obama inherit something that he helped create? By the way where did the TARP repayment in 2009 show up?
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Ahh, so it's the Republican's fault that the debt increased $1.4 trillion for FY2011 since they approved of the continuing resolutions for FY2011 earlier in the year. At least that's what you're saying anyway.

I like how you constantly shift the goal posts in order to accomodate your ever fluid positions.
 
Conservative said:
The 2012 election won't be about Bush, it will be about the Obama results and I doubt that 24 Million unemployed/under employed Americans in NOV 2011 are singing the Obama praises.
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Not true, since most still blame Bush for the current economic conditions, the 2012 election will be, in large part, about Bush.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Ahh, so it's the Republican's fault that the debt increased $1.4 trillion for FY2011 since they approved of the continuing resolutions for FY2011 earlier in the year. At least that's what you're saying anyway.

I like how you constantly shift the goal posts in order to accomodate your ever fluid positions.
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Regardless of your comments I don't think you are stupid enough to vote for another four years of Obama and this is mostly an act. Most people have higher standards than your post portray therefore I believe your posts are part of an act on your part. The typical Obama supporters are the only ones that totally ignore the Obama record. you are much smarter than that.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Not true, since most still blame Bush for the current economic conditions, the 2012 election will be, in large part, about Bush.
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If obama was proud of his record he would be running on that record instead of away from the record
 
Conservative said:
Regardless of your comments I don't think you are stupid enough to vote for another four years of Obama and this is mostly an act. Most people have higher standards than your post portray therefore I believe your posts are part of an act on your part. The typical Obama supporters are the only ones that totally ignore the Obama record. you are much smarter than that.
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Cries a person who voted to give Bush 4 more years after he failed to protect us on 9.11, let bin Laden escape, invaded Iraq over weapons that weren't there, and lost more jobs to unemployment than Obama.

You have no standards so you really have no standing to judge the standards of others.

Are you going to vote for wife cheater Gingrich if he wins the GOP nomination? Are those your standards?
 
Conservative said:
Apparently it doesn't bother you that the cost of generating positive private sector job growth that still has kept the number below what he "inherited" but because it is a liberal economic policy that generated these numbers, it is ok. What you fail to ignore is that 4.5 trillion has been added to the debt and a President that won the office with about 53% of the popular vote now has a JAR of 42% according to Gallup. That means he has lost 11% of his support. most apparently see what you don't see which is of course the following which includes over 24 million unemployed and under employed Americans plus a million discouraged workers leaving the work force each month and 315,000 dropping out last month. That to a liberal is a success?
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Are you saying that President Obama should expect no more than 42% to vote for him next November? So that means either Romney or Gingrich gets 58% of the vote? Do I have that correct?
 
Conservative said:
The 2012 election won't be about Bush, it will be about the Obama results and I doubt that 24 Million unemployed/under employed Americans in NOV 2011 are singing the Obama praises.
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So they will be voting for either Romney or Gingrich?
 
Thunder said:
because his two most viable Republican alternatives are a wanna-be Fascist and a Mormon flip-flopper?
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WOW!

It's incredible that a person's religion can still be a factor in the United States. You seemed to have got past the color thing quite a bit but apparently there are still a bunch of redneck hillbillies who have trouble with a candidates religion. And, amazingly, it seems there are a number of inbreds who actually support this.
 
Grant said:
WOW!

It's incredible that a person's religion can still be a factor in the United States. You seemed to have got past the color thing quite a bit but apparently there are still a bunch of redneck hillbillies who have trouble with a candidates religion. And, amazingly, it seems there are a number of inbreds who actually support this.
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Well Parry did make that ad......
 
Conservative said:
Here we go again, tax cuts for the rich? How is a tax cut an expense to the govt? Please explain how anyone keeping more of what they earn is an expense? How about it, when you keep more of what you earn is that an expense to the govt?

The 2012 election won't be about Bush, it will be about the Obama results and I doubt that 24 Million unemployed/under employed Americans in NOV 2011 are singing the Obama praises.
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You should look closer at the signs of the protestors.

They aren't saying down with Obama they mostly say CORPORATE GREED, or TO HELL WITH WALL STREET, or DOWN WITH THE RICH, or PART OF THE 99%

Now judgeing by a conservitive post posted by a poster called Conservitive, I get the impression that the Conservitive/Republican party support rich corporations and the rich.

Unfortunatly 1000+ protestors from New York to L.A. to Memphis do not.

The 2012 elections will be about what it has been about JOBS, OPPORTUNITY.
The fear cards, the color codes the WMDS have all been played "Staying The Course" is no longer mandatory.
Neither is" talk of change" or" promise of better America" an option , TALKS CHEAP.

The next elected politician has 2 choices.
1 DO SOMETHING TO CREATE MORE JOBS .
2 DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE WITH YOU POSITION YOU'LL BE LOOKING FOR A NEW ZIP CODE SOON.:peace
 
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winston53660 said:
Well Parry did make that ad......
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There are people on this board who seem to think a person's religion is an issue.

With all the problems the United States has they're going to focus on religion???

How stupid is that?
 
Grant said:
There are people on this board who seem to think a person's religion is an issue.
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There is also Republican hopefuls that think religion is an issue like Perry.
 
winston53660 said:
There is also Republican hopefuls that think religion is an issue like Perry.
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Apparently you don't get the point.

I'm talking about people we can actually address and confront about this ignorance, not someone far removed from our debates.

Are trying trying to make the point that some Republicans are as ignorant as Democrats? I wont argue that, but the Left seems to wear it on their sleeves..
 
winston53660 said:
There is also Republican hopefuls that think religion is an issue like Perry.
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It is no secret that the Republican as well as the Libertarian has been courting organized religion for votes.


If this is not fact, any Right wing posater can disbute this now BY RESPONDED DIFFERANTLY.:peace
 
Grant said:
WOW!

It's incredible that a person's religion can still be a factor in the United States. You seemed to have got past the color thing quite a bit but apparently there are still a bunch of redneck hillbillies who have trouble with a candidates religion. And, amazingly, it seems there are a number of inbreds who actually support this.
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You're speaking to the wrong crowd about that ... it's the right that will have to decide if they will vote for a Mormon for president, for if Romney is to become president, he will need their votes to achieve that.

I imagine there are a lot of Christian Conservatives who will not cast their vote for someone who believes G-d was once a man on another planet.
 
Conservative said:
The record that matters is jobs and debt on both he fails.
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At the time you voted to give Bush 4 more years, his debt was growing at 600,000,000,000 a year

That was a major fail.

You voted for him anyway. Those are your standards.

At the time you voted to give Bush 4 more years, the unemployment rate rose 31% from 4.2% to 5.5% as 1.2 million private sector jobs were lost

That too was a major fail.

You voted for him anyway. Those are your standards.

Now you whine about the standards of others. Meanwhile, you didn't answer ... are you going to vote for a serial wife cheater next year if Newt wins the GOP nomination? Are those your standards?
 
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