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U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

Obama's results? This implies he controls this. No president does. Again, show how Obama made this happen.

Obama controlled the economic policies for two years and did nothing to promote the private sector job growth or creation. Private sector cannot print money and thus when costs go up they have to generate the business to pay for those costs. You really ought to get out more
 

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I can go on if you wish to continue to stomp your feet.
In a way this makes sense. Given that the company, Government Motors, is propped up by the American taxpayer, it is probably easier to compete. Imagine how easy it would be for any company to see a flow of many billions of taxpayer dollars into the unions, to have ownership transferred from bondholders to union thugs, and then to do reasonably well, for a time.

But I will never, ever again knowingly buy a government motors product.
 
Criticism of the ARRA has also been strident, focusing on the high price tag, the slow speed of delivery, and the fact that the unemployment rate rose much higher than the Administration predicted in January 2009.

While we would not defend every aspect of the stimulus, we believe this criticism is largely misplaced, for these reasons:
The unusually large size of the fiscal stimulus (equal to about 7% of GDP) is consistent with the extraordinarily severe downturn and the limited ability to use monetary policy once interest rates neared zero.

Regarding speed, almost $500 billion has been spent to date (see Table 2). What matters for economic growth is the pace of stimulus spending, which surged from nothing at the start of 2009 to over $100 billion (over $400 billion at an annual rate) in the second quarter. That is a big change in a short period, and it is one major reason why the Great Recession ended and recovery began last summer.7

Critics who argue that the ARRA failed because it did not keep unemployment below 8% ignore the facts that (a) unemployment was already above 8% when the ARRA was passed and (b) most private forecasters (including Moody’s Analytics) misjudged how serious the downturn would be. If anything, this forecasting error suggests the stimulus package should have been even larger than it was.


This study attempts to quantify the contributions of the TARP, the stimulus, and other government initiatives to ending the financial panic and the Great Recession. In sum, we find they were highly effective. Without such a determined and aggressive response by policymakers, the economy would likely have fallen into a much deeper slump.

Here is the relevant analysis: Why does Conservative continue to dodge it at every turn?
 
Nonsense. This is simply your uninformed, completely subjective opinion. All relevant data analysis suggests otherwise.

Guess the Bureau of Labor statistics is wrong as well. I am in good company
 
Obama controlled the economic policies for two years and did nothing to promote the private sector job growth or creation. Private sector cannot print money and thus when costs go up they have to generate the business to pay for those costs. You really ought to get out more

No, he goes through congress. So, no he doesn't have complete control. Government as a whole doesn't have that kind of control. You are simply wrong in thinking government controls the economy. If they did, the economy would never be bad.
 
In a way this makes sense. Given that the company, Government Motors, is propped up by the American taxpayer, it is probably easier to compete. Imagine how easy it would be for any company to see a flow of many billions of taxpayer dollars into the unions, to have ownership transferred from bondholders to union thugs, and then to do reasonably well, for a time.

But I will never, ever again knowingly buy a government motors product.

So? This is irrelevant to the discussion (let alone my actual statement in which you quoted).
 
They were insolvent; without government financing the company would have been broken down, and the pieces auctioned off to the highest bidders (with Chinese investors licking their chops).
Why shouldn't that have happened?
 
Here is the relevant analysis: Why does Conservative continue to dodge it at every turn?

We are three years later and unemployment is still over 8% and more like 16% but that doesn't matter, does it? Keep holding your belief in the success of the Obama stimulus plan whereas the results show a different picturre
 
Guess the Bureau of Labor statistics is wrong as well. I am in good company

Nope. Your take on the data is just wrong. This is probably a sign that you have no business discussing the topic (and you consistent desire to divert).
 
No, he goes through congress. So, no he doesn't have complete control. Government as a whole doesn't have that kind of control. You are simply wrong in thinking government controls the economy. If they did, the economy would never be bad.

What exactly has Obama wanted that he didn't get that would have benefited the economy?
 
We are three years later and unemployment is still over 8% and more like 16% but that doesn't matter, does it? Keep holding your belief in the success of the Obama stimulus plan whereas the results show a different picturre

In translation: "I am unable to respond to your statement because i lack the experience in interpreting and analyzing economic data."
 
Nope. Your take on the data is just wrong. This is probably a sign that you have no business discussing the topic (and you consistent desire to divert).

You are absolutely correct, it was taken right from the BLS data and referenced by the links in the Obama record post. As stated I am in good company posting inaccurate data. You really need to call or write the BLS and tell them how wrong they are
 
Are you doing your part to increase govt. revenue by sending in more than required? If not, why not?

Yes I am definitely doing my part to increase revenues by supporting the Jobs Bill and fighting the Grover led republican parties effort to eliminate the revenue producing middle class of our country. Exposing the united republicans effort to defeat bills like this S. 3816 [111th]: Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act.
 
What exactly has Obama wanted that he didn't get that would have benefited the economy?

How many times will you mention Obama? We get it, you don't agree with him and the policies he has enacted.
 
What exactly has Obama wanted that he didn't get that would have benefited the economy?

Again, seek my main point, it doesn't matter as none of government controls the enconomy. Bush couldn't. Obama can't. If either could, it would not be bad. Unless of course you're arguing republicans are deliberaly trying to harm people to get reelected, or that Obama is secretly a republican?
 
You are absolutely correct, it was taken right from the BLS data and referenced by the links in the Obama record post. As stated I am in good company posting inaccurate data. You really need to call or write the BLS and tell them how wrong they are

The data is just data. Your interpretation of the data is just plain ignorant of the quantitative analysis required to make an informed opinion of the said data.
 
Yes I am definitely doing my part to increase revenues by supporting the Jobs Bill and fighting the Grover led republican parties effort to eliminate the revenue producing middle class of our country. Exposing the united republicans effort to defeat bills like this S. 3816 [111th]: Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act.

Congratulations, that has led to the current economic results of a net job loss, declining employment, and 4.5 trillion added to the debt. I can see how proud you are of those results. As for Norquest

Democrats stuck on tax rates: Democrats are stuck on tax rates while GOP seeks reform - OrlandoSentinel.com
 
The data is just data. Your interpretation of the data is just plain ignorant of the quantitative analysis required to make an informed opinion of the said data.

Thanks, you know how much I care about your opinion of me. I especially love how people like you take negative numbers and spin them positively.
 
The President did not cause businesses to layoff employees in mass exodus. They were doing this way before he was even elected. The question really is, why have job losses vanished since the summer of 2009?
That is a reasonably good question. I believe that in private companies, once they saw the one term Marxist president-elect they began to shed all of the rest of their marginal workers. That may be why the layoffs spiked in November 2008. There are only so many marginal workers. Once they were gone, they were gone.
 
A republican that was willing to compromise for the good of the country

And what exactly did Obama want that he didn't get his first two years in office that would have helped the economy?
 
Again, seek my main point, it doesn't matter as none of government controls the enconomy. Bush couldn't. Obama can't. If either could, it would not be bad. Unless of course you're arguing republicans are deliberaly trying to harm people to get reelected, or that Obama is secretly a republican?

What exactly did Obama want that he didn't get his first two years in office that would have created a better economy? The results are what they are yet you keep ignoring them.
 
That is a reasonably good question. I believe that in private companies, once they saw the one term Marxist president-elect they began to shed all of the rest of their marginal workers. That may be why the layoffs spiked in November 2008. There are only so many marginal workers. Once they were gone, they were gone.

Ok. Your opinion is noted. The relevant analytics provided by Moody's paints a different picture.
 
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