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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think you're the one having trouble. You are ignoring the facts and evidence presented, and often going off on distractions. The question is why?
    Those who have no real argument, but are slaves to ideology, will be the first go off on tangents so they do not look too foolish defending a weak position.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Net private sector job creation: 140,000. That's how.
    The economy has to create a lot more than 140,000 just to keep even. The unemployment rate today is much higher than 8.6% and that is much higher than it was when he took office

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    You have to understand the problem, what was and wasnt done, what can be done by a president, and what really falls outside the ability of any president. You look at numbers mindlessly Conservative and lack context or understanding of what you read. And when cornered, resort to diversions. Not sure this conversation can be fruitful.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Those who have no real argument, but are slaves to ideology, will be the first go off on tangents so they do not look too foolish defending a weak position.
    Sadly there is some truth to that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    GDP says I'm right. and the unemployment numbers are going down.
    Are the numbers going down or are the percentages due to the way the unemployed are not longer counted?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I believe we can safely assume that the one term Marxist president Obama will have your vote.
    I believe it is safe to assume that your post is irrelevant to the topic. Maybe you and conservative can start another thread where you can share your opinions in a relevant fashion.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post


    Here
    Thanks, now let me know when there is a net private sector job gain from when he took office?

    110.981 million private sector jobs January 2009 and 109.719 million in November 2011. Were you this excited about the 52 weeks of job growth during the Bush years?

    2009 110981 110260 109473 108700 108374 107936 107649 107434 107221 106971 106937 106835
    2010 106793 106772 106916 107145 107193 107258 107351 107461 107570 107713 107841 108008
    2011 108102 108363 108582 108823 108922 108997 109170 109242 109462 109579 109719

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are the numbers going down or are the percentages due to the way the unemployed are not longer counted?
    are you suggesting that Obama is counting the unemployed in a way different than Schrub, Clinton, Bush, or Reagan did?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    GDP is back in the positive. the stock market has regained ALL of its losses.
    Really? I am down at least 150K. The value of my house dropped over 100K.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think you're the one having trouble. You are ignoring the facts and evidence presented, and often going off on distractions. The question is why?
    Could be that you call your opinions and those of others facts
    Last edited by Conservative; 12-11-11 at 03:53 PM.

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