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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I think the majority of the American people are as dumb as most liberals here knowing that keeping more of their own money is a good thing. Noticed how this is a real hot button for you so apparently you are sending into the govt. more than the taxes collected?
    There you go again sterotyping and attacking the liberals, so I am going to ask you a couple of pertinent questions

    1-57% of the registered republican voters did not think that President Obama was born in America so do you think that they didn't think that the RNC had the ability to make that determination of his right to run or do you think that at least 57% of the republicans are to ignorant to accept the fact that the RNC has the ability to check

    2- Do you really know how the economy works? Do you know that consumer demand is required to sell any product? Be a real American instead of being a talking head for a party that is doing every thing they can to kill the golden goose

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    You having problems understanding the actual Obama results and the fact that the 8.6% unemployment number is a false number?
    Conservatives have NEVER worried about the "under-employed" or those folks who have simply stopped collecting unemployment insurance and stopped looking for work.

    why is this now suddenly an issue with them?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    I am sure you know that unemployment numbers are monthly not cumulative and that the 24 plus million unemployed and under employed was for November 2011. I am also sure that you know that the 1.1 million discouraged workers were for November 2011 as were the 315,000 that dropped out of the labor force so tell me again how the job losses have vanished?
    Net private sector job creation: 140,000. That's how.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am sure you know that unemployment numbers are monthly not cumulative and that the 24 plus million unemployed and under employed was for November 2011. I am also sure that you know that the 1.1 million discouraged workers were for November 2011 as were the 315,000 that dropped out of the labor force so tell me again how the job losses have vanished?


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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    For the last 30 years, all the GOP has cared about is increasing corporate profits & reducing the corporate workforce, so as to maximize stock dividends and keep the shareholders happy.

    now, all of the sudden, the GOP is talking about the under-employed, folks who have stopped collecting unemployment insurance, and folks who have stopped looking for work.

    why the suddent change? oh....right....I forgot.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    3) if you are going to accuse me of getting my 'marching orders' from the UAW, implying that i can't think for myself, well, lets put the shoe on the other foot, and i will start every future post involving you with saying that you take your 'marching orders' from the RNC...fair is fair after all.
    I agree with most of your opinion. Item three is a little weak. You rely upon the union for your job. There are very few posters who rely upon the RNC for theirs. I assume that you pay dues to the union. I do not pay dues to the RNC. I assume that if you stopped paying dues you might lose your job. I lose nothing if I don't contribute to the RNC. You are right in one respect, the unions and the RNC are both in the same business. They both are political organizations intent upon electing people who agree with their positions.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You having problems understanding the actual Obama results and the fact that the 8.6% unemployment number is a false number?
    I think you're the one having trouble. You are ignoring the facts and evidence presented, and often going off on distractions. The question is why?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    EarlzP;1060018957]There you go again sterotyping and attacking the liberals, so I am going to ask you a couple of pertinent questions

    1-57% of the registered republican voters did not think that President Obama was born in America so do you think that they didn't think that the RNC had the ability to make that determination of his right to run or do you think that at least 57% of the republicans are to ignorant to accept the fact that the RNC has the ability to check
    I don't care where Obama was born, I care about his results and I have posted the results. His birth place is for another thread topic and has been debated now for three years. His results are the issue and what are being ignored.

    2- Do you really know how the economy works? Do you know that consumer demand is required to sell any product? Be a real American instead of being a talking head for a party that is doing every thing they can to kill the golden goose
    We have a consumer generated economy with 2/3 of our economy driving by consuemr spending. What generates consumer spending? Cash in the hands of the consumer. Think tax increases put more money into those consumer hands?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Conservatives have NEVER worried about the "under-employed" or those folks who have simply stopped collecting unemployment insurance and stopped looking for work.

    why is this now suddenly an issue with them?
    It is an issue because it affects the unemployment rate. The 8.6% is a distorted number something you seem to not understand

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    in 2008, I was very fearful for the stock market, my city, and my country. it looked like we were going straight to hell...and fast.

    now? things have stabilized. we have a long way to go, but the stock market has regained ALL of its losses, companies are hiring again, companies are matching 401k contributions again, and we are on our way.

    so yes, this country is better off today than it was when Obama took over.
    I believe we can safely assume that the one term Marxist president Obama will have your vote.

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