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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    This is very true. We need to think in terms different than party, or even liberla versus conservative, but in pragmatic problem solving and cooperation. Utopia if you will.
    Pragmatic problem solving might not bring us utopia, but it will at least give us a chance to meet the challenges we face as a nation. Shooting darts at "liberals" or at "conservatives" isn't going to get us anywhere. Who knows just what is meant by those labels anyway? It usually just means "people who don't agree with my point of view." or perhaps, "the political bad guys."
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Pragmatic problem solving might not bring us utopia, but it will at least give us a chance to meet the challenges we face as a nation. Shooting darts at "liberals" or at "conservatives" isn't going to get us anywhere. Who knows just what is meant by those labels anyway? It usually just means "people who don't agree with my point of view." or perhaps, "the political bad guys."
    I quite agree. Well said.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This is very true. We need to think in terms different than party, or even liberla versus conservative, but in pragmatic problem solving and cooperation. Utopia if you will.
    So, how many Conservative policies would you include in this, "pramatic problem solving"? I'm thinking, none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, how many Conservative policies would you include in this, "pramatic problem solving"? I'm thinking, none.

    I don't know. Present some. But what I would include doesn't mean others shouldn't do as I suggest. Do you or don't you agree?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Has has been pointed out on this thread but ignored by those that want to divert from the Obama record the labor force saw 315,000 drop out of the labor force which doesn't seem to bother the Obama supporters because they can hang on to the claim that the rate dropped to 8.6%. What these people want to ignore is that those people are no longer counted as unemployed thus reduces the rate. Great news for Obama? Hardly and here is another example why.

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNU05026645
    Not Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Unadj) Not in Labor Force, Searched For Work and Available, Discouraged Reasons For Not Currently Looking
    Labor force status: Not in labor force
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Job desires/not in labor force: Want a job now
    Reasons not in labor force: Discouragement over job prospects (Persons who believe no job is available.)

    Notice the discourated workers who aren't counted either. Obama has adveraged over a million a month that stopped looking for jobs, are discouraged and not counted. The real rate is 9.3%
    Years: 2001 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096


    Unemployed plus discouraged workers

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
    2011 14856 14693 14463 14736 14736 15069 15050 14944 15029 14864 14399 0


    Labor Force 2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017 154198 153883

    UE Rate w/o DW 9.05% 8.92% 8.83% 8.96% 9.05% 9.18% 9.09% 9.09% 9.08% 9.01% 8.64% #DIV/0!

    UE Rate with DW 9.70% 9.59% 9.43% 9.60% 9.59% 9.82% 9.82% 9.73% 9.76% 9.64% 9.36% #DIV/0!

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Has has been pointed out on this thread but ignored by those that want to divert from the Obama record the labor force saw 315,000 drop out of the labor force which doesn't seem to bother the Obama supporters because they can hang on to the claim that the rate dropped to 8.6%. What these people want to ignore is that those people are no longer counted as unemployed thus reduces the rate. Great news for Obama? Hardly and here is another example why.

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNU05026645
    Not Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Unadj) Not in Labor Force, Searched For Work and Available, Discouraged Reasons For Not Currently Looking
    Labor force status: Not in labor force
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Job desires/not in labor force: Want a job now
    Reasons not in labor force: Discouragement over job prospects (Persons who believe no job is available.)

    Notice the discourated workers who aren't counted either. Obama has adveraged over a million a month that stopped looking for jobs, are discouraged and not counted. The real rate is 9.3%
    Years: 2001 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096


    Unemployed plus discouraged workers

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
    2011 14856 14693 14463 14736 14736 15069 15050 14944 15029 14864 14399 0


    Labor Force 2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017 154198 153883

    UE Rate w/o DW 9.05% 8.92% 8.83% 8.96% 9.05% 9.18% 9.09% 9.09% 9.08% 9.01% 8.64% #DIV/0!

    UE Rate with DW 9.70% 9.59% 9.43% 9.60% 9.59% 9.82% 9.82% 9.73% 9.76% 9.64% 9.36% #DIV/0!
    Discouraged workers are typically out of work for more than a year, after their unemployment benefits run out. Notice how that number spiked to over a million in January, 2010 ... those would be the people who lost their job while Bush was president. You know, the loser you'd vote for again if he could run.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Discouraged workers are typically out of work for more than a year, after their unemployment benefits run out. Notice how that number spiked to over a million in January, 2010 ... those would be the people who lost their job while Bush was president. You know, the loser you'd vote for again if he could run.
    Since Discouraged workers is a monthly number I find it quite amazing that November 2011 was Bush's fault. You really need to get over your BDS. It does seem that you don't understand the concept of leadership and accepting personal responsibility. that makes you comparable to Obama

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Has has been pointed out on this thread but ignored by those that want to divert from the Obama record the labor force saw 315,000 drop out of the labor force which doesn't seem to bother the Obama supporters because they can hang on to the claim that the rate dropped to 8.6%. What these people want to ignore is that those people are no longer counted as unemployed thus reduces the rate. Great news for Obama? Hardly and here is another example why.

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNU05026645
    Not Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Unadj) Not in Labor Force, Searched For Work and Available, Discouraged Reasons For Not Currently Looking
    Labor force status: Not in labor force
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Job desires/not in labor force: Want a job now
    Reasons not in labor force: Discouragement over job prospects (Persons who believe no job is available.)

    Notice the discourated workers who aren't counted either. Obama has adveraged over a million a month that stopped looking for jobs, are discouraged and not counted. The real rate is 9.3%
    Years: 2001 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096


    Unemployed plus discouraged workers

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
    2011 14856 14693 14463 14736 14736 15069 15050 14944 15029 14864 14399 0


    Labor Force 2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017 154198 153883

    UE Rate w/o DW 9.05% 8.92% 8.83% 8.96% 9.05% 9.18% 9.09% 9.09% 9.08% 9.01% 8.64% #DIV/0!

    UE Rate with DW 9.70% 9.59% 9.43% 9.60% 9.59% 9.82% 9.82% 9.73% 9.76% 9.64% 9.36% #DIV/0!
    SO MANY random numbers, so little time.
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