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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Still debating about which POTUS is to blame for the current mess? Why? I already told you that Congress had a lot more to do with it than any president, but I guess you've ignored me, or didn't believe me. We expect the president to have dictatorial powers, and, indeed, we're busy giving them to him. Take a look at this thread as a glaring example.

    But, anyway, it was Bush, Cheney, and McCain who got a freshman senator still wet behind the ears elected. If he gets reelected, it will be the good work of Perry, or perhaps Gingrich. We'll see just how this rather interesting election plays out.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Still debating about which POTUS is to blame for the current mess? Why? I already told you that Congress had a lot more to do with it than any president, but I guess you've ignored me, or didn't believe me. We expect the president to have dictatorial powers, and, indeed, we're busy giving them to him. Take a look at this thread as a glaring example.

    But, anyway, it was Bush, Cheney, and McCain who got a freshman senator still wet behind the ears elected. If he gets reelected, it will be the good work of Perry, or perhaps Gingrich. We'll see just how this rather interesting election plays out.
    That is the liberal easy way to divert from the Obama record and prevent from discussing it for that is all Obama wants to do. This is going to be one of the nastiest if not the nastiest election of all times.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Still debating about which POTUS is to blame for the current mess? Why? I already told you that Congress had a lot more to do with it than any president, but I guess you've ignored me, or didn't believe me. We expect the president to have dictatorial powers, and, indeed, we're busy giving them to him. Take a look at this thread as a glaring example.

    But, anyway, it was Bush, Cheney, and McCain who got a freshman senator still wet behind the ears elected. If he gets reelected, it will be the good work of Perry, or perhaps Gingrich. We'll see just how this rather interesting election plays out.
    You were expecting something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is the liberal easy way to divert from the Obama record and prevent from discussing it for that is all Obama wants to do. This is going to be one of the nastiest if not the nastiest election of all times.
    The last statement is correct.

    It is not a problem with "liberals", however you define it. We have a failure of government to govern.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You were expecting something different?
    Actually, no.

    But, the upcoming election could have some surprises. Who knows what the advertising moguls will be able to make a gullible public believe?
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The last statement is correct.

    It is not a problem with "liberals", however you define it. We have a failure of government to govern.
    Politicians on both sides continue to find ways to keep their jobs mostly by buying votes with spending. I happen to be more in line with the Republicans today who are at least trying to promote the private sector spending the money vs. the govt. sector spending it

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Politicians on both sides continue to find ways to keep their jobs mostly by buying votes with spending.
    Yes, and by passing legislation favorable to their donors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I happen to be more in line with the Republicans today who are at least trying to promote the private sector spending the money vs. the govt. sector spending it
    and I think both sides are to blame. The public sector spending you decry has grown exponentially under both. Now, the main goal of both parties seems to be to gain and keep power, to make the other side look as bad as possible, but not to work together to solve the monumental problems we face as a nation.

    Government is dysfunctional. We've already changed parties a couple of times, and nothing changes.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So Barney Frank
    Lone Congressman by night, but by day is the most powerfull man in the US?
    I would think of him as one of a handful of thugs in the Congress. There are other villains as well.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    You are right I get p-ssed every time I see this buck passing going on, the man at the helm when all of this sh-t was taking place was none other then ex president GW Bush, not President B Obama.
    Hmmm, let's see, many Congresses and administrations had a role to play then and continue to do so today. Does that mean all (except Bush) are absolved of their responsibility?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, and by passing legislation favorable to their donors.



    and I think both sides are to blame. The public sector spending you decry has grown exponentially under both. Now, the main goal of both parties seems to be to gain and keep power, to make the other side look as bad as possible, but not to work together to solve the monumental problems we face as a nation.

    Government is dysfunctional. We've already changed parties a couple of times, and nothing changes.
    This is very true. We need to think in terms different than party, or even liberla versus conservative, but in pragmatic problem solving and cooperation. Utopia if you will.

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