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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well put? LOL, have any of you ever taken a civics class?
    oooo, me! me! I took a civics class. We discussed the powers that the president has and doesn't have. It was quite clear that the POTUS does not have the power to force banks to make loans, nor does he run the economy. I think you must be thinking of the old Soviet Union, or perhaps China under Mao, where the leader did run the economy. It didn't turn out so well for them, so I'm not sure we even want our leader running the economy.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    WTF is that supposed to mean, Con?
    It means that that driver's seat on the bus was quite huge, large enough to hold Congress including Democrats

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    oooo, me! me! I took a civics class. We discussed the powers that the president has and doesn't have. It was quite clear that the POTUS does not have the power to force banks to make loans, nor does he run the economy. I think you must be thinking of the old Soviet Union, or perhaps China under Mao, where the leader did run the economy. It didn't turn out so well for them, so I'm not sure we even want our leader running the economy.
    Now that was well put however directed to the wrong person. Hopefully Pb and Adam actually read your post

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now that was well put however directed to the wrong person. Hopefully Pb and Adam actually read your post
    Thank you.

    You're the one who asked whether anyone had taken a civics class, but I see you took one also.

    No one who is debating which president was at fault for the mortgage crisis or the economic collapse managed to stay awake during the discussion of the powers of the executive branch, but they don't seem to be paying attention when I point out that we don't have a dictatorship either.
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    No president is responsible for either. And congress is only one of many responsible for the disaster. There is more than enough blame for the housing crisis to go around.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No president is responsible for either. And congress is only one of many responsible for the disaster. There is more than enough blame for the housing crisis to go around.
    Exactly. 91% of the population understands that. The other 9% approves of the job Congress has been doing.
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    Presidents are like quarterbacks - get too much credit when things are going well, take too much blame when things are going south.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Presidents are like quarterbacks - get too much credit when things are going well, take too much blame when things are going south.
    So you are saying that Tim Tebow would make a better president than Cam Newton? I just might agree with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    So you are saying that Tim Tebow would make a better president than Cam Newton? I just might agree with that
    Half of this country wishes Jesus would come back and be President anyways.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    So you are saying that Tim Tebow would make a better president than Cam Newton? I just might agree with that
    I am confused by this statement.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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