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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    @OP - I didn't read through this whole thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but the White House has changed its census approach to not include people who are not actively seeking employment. A lot of people who have been job searching have given up the search because there is no hope.

    Our officials are deceiving us yet again with incomplete information. I think we can get closer to the truth if we compare the welfare and EI rates to the unemployment rate.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You lied when you claimed that there was nothing misleading about quoting a sub-6% unemployment rate for '08 when in fact the unemployment rate was around 8% at the time of Obama's inauguration. No apology offered.
    I stated the average unemployment rate in 2008 was 5.7%, which it was.

    If you have data that disproves my post, kindly post it or apologize for calling me a liar.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I stated the average unemployment rate in 2008 was 5.7%, which it was.

    If you have data that disproves my post, kindly post it or apologize for calling me a liar.
    I didn't dispute the average figure. What I said is that it's extremely misleading given the fact that unemployment was skyrocketing and stood at close to 8% when Obama was inaugurated. You claimed that it wasn't misleading in the context of what Bush left on Obama's doorstep and THAT'S what I called you on. Because of course Obama didn't inherit the average unemployment rate for January 2008. He inherited an unemployment rate around 8% and rising.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why don't you stick to the facts and stop worrying about my leanings?
    That exactly what I have been doing and you ignored the data and facts. It is the Obama record that is the issue three years after taking office, not Bush's.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Perhaps you can explain why you give the Republican President, Republican House, and Republican Senate a complete pass for the six years they ran things unopposed leading up to the worst recession since WWII?
    because the Republican House and Senate generated 9 million jobs, trillions added to GDP, and won the war in Iraq. You make wild accusations that you cannot support. The GOP controlled the Congress 4 1/2 years not 6 and it was the last two that contributed most of the debt and led to the recession. You can continue to blame the past but all that does is make you feel better about the present which ignores the Obama record.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't dispute the average figure. What I said is that it's extremely misleading given the fact that unemployment was skyrocketing and stood at close to 8% when Obama was inaugurated. You claimed that it wasn't misleading in the context of what Bush left on Obama's doorstep and THAT'S what I called you on. Because of course Obama didn't inherit the average unemployment rate for January 2008. He inherited an unemployment rate around 8% and rising.
    Then you admit that you were lying.

    I gave Bush's average numbers and Obama's average numbers, the only fair way to compare.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Then you admit that you were lying.

    I gave Bush's average numbers and Obama's average numbers, the only fair way to compare.
    No, it not a fair way to compare when you ignore the actual beginning/ending point and the huge negative momentum that was taking place. It is, in fact, UNfair. My point.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That exactly what I have been doing and you ignored the data and facts. It is the Obama record that is the issue three years after taking office, not Bush's.
    Actually you were JUST talking about me and not the numbers in the post to which I responded. Obviously Obama's record is what it is, but it can't be understood without considering the context of situation that he inherited. It's just inasnity to suggest otherwise.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it not a fair way to compare when you ignore the actual beginning/ending point and the huge negative momentum that was taking place. It is, in fact, UNfair. My point.
    It's fair to compare averages since Obama has done zilch, zero, nada to improve the economy in three years. In contrast, Reagan had the economy turned around before this time of his first term.

    The difference is Reagan was a leader, while Obama is a follower.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    So the number of people reaching the age of 15 does not grow each day ??
    Of course they do.. "new people entering the workforce"....
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