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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Spin it however you like -- it's obviously an improvement. Over all it's not great that the work force is shrinking, but people aren't uniformly leaving because they simply can't find work. Baby boomers are moving into retirement which accounts for part of it. Part of it is that people are going back to school because the skills they have don't meet the needs of the current market.

    Some numbers you somehow failed to report were:

    Discouraged workers:

    Nov 2010 - 1,282
    Nov 2011 - 1,096

    Job losers and persons who completed temporary assignments:

    Nov 2010 - 9,471
    Nov 2011 - 7,574

    Job leavers

    Nov 2010 - 867
    Nov 2011 - 1,007

    So manufacturing is up, consumer confidence is up, consumer spending is up, retail sales are up, service industry employment is up, and unemployment is down. Clearly the sky IS falling!
    It seems the Bush policies are working.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems the Bush policies are working.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He'll be too busy blaming FDR.
    I hope he will begin undoing the damage done by FDR's policies and programs. The most urgent immediate need will be to undo the impending damage from the one term Marxist's reign of error.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No question about it, Obama policies are working as 315,000 people dropped out of the labor force and if that continues to happen the rate will be well below 8%. Just keep discouraging the private sector from creating jobs and get more people to drop out. That seems to be the liberal plan.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No question about it, Obama policies are working as 315,000 people dropped out of the labor force and if that continues to happen the rate will be well below 8%. Just keep discouraging the private sector from creating jobs and get more people to drop out. That seems to be the liberal plan.


    Yep, you two are convinced that government is the answer.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    Yep, you two are convinced that government is the answer.
    As "Your" President has shown, govt. is the answer. Demonize the private sector, promote wealth distribution, encourage people to drop out of the labor force and the results will speak for themselves results that don't matter to an Obama supporter.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As "Your" President has shown, govt. is the answer. Demonize the private sector, promote wealth distribution, encourage people to drop out of the labor force and the results will speak for themselves results that don't matter to an Obama supporter.
    Demonize like Fox calling folks parasites and moochers?


    Yeah, you guys are funny.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Demonize like Fox calling folks parasites and moochers?


    Yeah, you guys are funny.
    Who is Fox?

    Can you quote him-her with a link?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who is Fox?

    Can you quote him-her with a link?
    Been done already. But I think you know full well what the Fox folks have been saying.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Well, you do have to take into consideration that FNC is a CABLE channel. I can get ABC, NBC and CBS at my house for free. I hate their news, but its all I have as I don't subscribe to any providers for TV. So if someone were to ask me what I watch, I'd have to answer one of those or nothing at all. You're comparing network vs cable, and really nobody does that. FNC vs CNN would be fair. CBS vs ABC would be fair. I mean, how many millions of people out there only get one of the networks and can't watch FNC if they wanted to? See what I mean?

    That's why the links I showed were more accurate, comparing apples to apples. I sure thought that FNC had more viewers anyway, even though they were cable only. Oh well, such is life in the valley.
    He is intentionally leaving out the fact FNC is on 24/7 so they reach a hell of a lot more people throughout the course of a day. Here is a recent rating source. During the shows they track it looks like FNC had at least 16 million viewers each day....and this doesn't cover all of the filler shows between the am show and prime time.

    Cable News Ratings for Thursday, December 1, 2011 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers
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