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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    perhaps when you actually prove the gov't has taken over these industries we will be concerned.
    They don't need no stinkin proof!!!!!

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    None of that is true. That's just the koolaid you're drinking.

    I'm not sure how to address such misinformation.
    It's ALL true. You just have your head "up and locked" therefore you are unable to see.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    It's ALL true. You just have your head "up and locked" therefore you are unable to see.
    No, it isn't. But present something factual and not just from the koolaid drinkers. I'll look it over.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. But present something factual and not just from the koolaid drinkers. I'll look it over.
    I did present facts. I said until and unless this nation can produce at least 400,000 jobs per month and the unemployment rate increases back over 9% for a few months till it then starts a downward trend we are in deep do-do.

    If you don't understand that. you ought not be debating this topic.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They don't need no stinkin proof!!!!!

    Here ya go...

    Almost 90% of the laws passed by the federal government in past two centuries of our existence are unconstitutional. However, these past ten months of the new Congress and the Obama administration have seen an accelerated activity of seizing of power on epic scale. In the process, the government has taken over the Automobile industry, neutered the finance industry, decapitated the banking industry, has almost finished destroying the Energy industry along with everything that follows from it, i.e., the whole economy. Not the least of those attempts to destroy as much of American economy as possible was the so-called Stimulus Bill, and the TARP2 bill. Now they are in the process of taking over the Health Care industry, which is roughly one-sixth of the total economy.

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    However the story does not stop there. The so-called public option is designed to destroy the entire Insurance Industry as a side-effect.

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    In the field of media and information, they are in the process of taking over the Internet control under the deceptive name of Net-neutrality Rules. Furthermore, the FCC is actively pursuing direct government control of radio stations under the name of diversity ownership rules of radio-stations.

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    Add to all this the fact that Obama has declared a state of National Emergency over a non-problem conveniently dubbed, The Swine Flu Epidemic, which has

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    This is just the tip of the iceberg. The following links systematically enlists all the ills perpetrated by Leftist legislations and Leftist administrative policies of Leftist presidents, and Leftist judges over the entire history of our country. After studying all this, it can be easily seen that almost all the problems that America has faced in the past, and is facing today, are created by this Leftist meddling of something that ‘ain‘t broken‘. Get rid of the Left, and get rid of almost all of our problems.

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    Here is a more complete list of the crimes committed by the enemy against America. We start with the crimes of the current Government, i.e., the Obama Administration, the leftist

    A Catalog of Obama’s Crimes Against America | RedState
    Now I know you'll just dismiss this site as partisan, and I admit that it is no DailyKOS which I know would be preferable to you but here are some others....

    Just before the holidays, the fact-checking journalists at PolitiFact.com gave their Lie of the Year award to the claim that ObamaCare is a "government takeover of health care." Backed up by the unanimous judgments of five ObamaCare supporters, PolitiFact declared that notion "simply not true," "inaccurate," and "ridiculously false."

    Egad, I thought. I have written entire reports calling ObamaCare a government takeover. I've said it on television, in op-eds, interviews and online. I was spreading the Lie of the Year!

    ObamaCare is not a government takeover, I learned from PolitiFact, because it "uses the private health insurance system to expand health care coverage."

    But wait. In my research, I found that distinction between public and private to be illusory: what difference is there between a public system where the government taxes and spends your money, and a "private" system where the government forces you to spend your money in the same way?

    "It is irrelevant," I wrote, "whether we describe medical resources (e.g., hospitals, employees) as 'public' or 'private.' What matters – what determines real as opposed to nominal ownership – is who controls the resources." I detailed how making private health insurance compulsory – as ObamaCare does – "would give government as much control over the nation's health care sector as a compulsory government program."


    Is ObamaCare a Government Takeover of Health Care? - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine
    The Anatomy of a Hostile Government Takeover - James C. Capretta - National Review Online

    RealClearPolitics - Government, UAW Take Over the Auto Industry

    Barack Obama Maintains Control Over Banks By Refusing to Accept Repayment of TARP Money - WSJ.com

    How Obama's Alternative-Energy Programs Became Green Graft - The Daily Beast

    there you go, everything from right leaning to the far left daily beast....Get back to me when you have read them.


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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I did present facts. I said until and unless this nation can produce at least 400,000 jobs per month and the unemployment rate increases back over 9% for a few months till it then starts a downward trend we are in deep do-do.

    If you don't understand that. you ought not be debating this topic.
    Wow, not only didn't you present facts, but you switched subjects. Do you know conservative, he posts here. We're discussing j's bogus list.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Here ya go...



    Now I know you'll just dismiss this site as partisan, and I admit that it is no DailyKOS which I know would be preferable to you but here are some others....



    The Anatomy of a Hostile Government Takeover - James C. Capretta - National Review Online

    RealClearPolitics - Government, UAW Take Over the Auto Industry

    Barack Obama Maintains Control Over Banks By Refusing to Accept Repayment of TARP Money - WSJ.com

    How Obama's Alternative-Energy Programs Became Green Graft - The Daily Beast

    there you go, everything from right leaning to the far left daily beast....Get back to me when you have read them.


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    j, while I laugh at your sources, with the WSJ opinion page, an opinion, being the only credible source, proving you drink the koolaid like I say, none of it consititutes a take over. Insurance is still a private busines, the banks still function independently, the auto industry is not owned by the government. You are again inaccurate and have to go to koolaid drinkers to post links. Sad as that is, you will never convince anyone using these sources. Sorry.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wow, not only didn't you present facts, but you switched subjects. Do you know conservative, he posts here. We're discussing j's bogus list.
    You are right. I got into this late.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    j, while I laugh at your sources, with the WSJ opinion page, an opinion, being the only credible source, proving you drink the koolaid like I say, none of it consititutes a take over. Insurance is still a private busines, the banks still function independently, the auto industry is not owned by the government. You are again inaccurate and have to go to koolaid drinkers to post links. Sad as that is, you will never convince anyone using these sources. Sorry.
    There are no credible sources. Not one. They all have a point of view and an agenda. Sad, but true.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    There are no credible sources. Not one. They all have a point of view and an agenda. Sad, but true.
    Again, point of view or bias is not what matters. I tell j this often. Accuracy does. Those sources often if not always are inaccurate, and often comically so.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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