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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I've shown this to you before, you must have ignored what I posted which was neatly formatted with a table. On report CES0500000001 start with Feb 2010 and check the subsequent 21 months and you will see numbers getting bigger. If you use the 1-Month Net Change option you can see easily see it.

    As for your numbers that you highlighted in red - that's your basic housing bubble.
    Need i remind you that 4.5 trillion has been added to the debt to generate those numbers and we still have a lower civilian labor force than when he took office. is the population in this country dropping?

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS13000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Unemployment Level
    Labor force status: Unemployed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 2000 to 2010

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2000 5708 5858 5733 5481 5758 5651 5747 5853 5625 5534 5639 5634
    2001 6023 6089 6141 6271 6226 6484 6583 7042 7142 7694 8003 8258
    2002 8182 8215 8304 8599 8399 8393 8390 8304 8251 8307 8520 8640
    2003 8520 8618 8588 8842 8957 9266 9011 8896 8921 8732 8576 8317
    2004 8370 8167 8491 8170 8212 8286 8136 7990 7927 8061 7932 7934
    2005 7784 7980 7737 7672 7651 7524 7406 7345 7553 7453 7566 7279
    2006 7059 7185 7075 7122 6977 6998 7154 7097 6853 6728 6883 6784
    2007 7085 6898 6725 6845 6765 6966 7113 7096 7200 7273 7284 7696
    2008 7628 7435 7793 7631 8397 8560 8895 9509 9569 10172 10617 11400
    2009 11919 12714 13310 13816 14518 14721 14534 14993 15159 15612 15340 15267
    2010 14837 14871 15005 15260 14973 14623 14599 14860 14767 14843 15119 14485
    2011 13863 13673 13542 13747 13914 14087 13931 13967 13992 13897 13303

    Discouraged workers

    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
    2011 14856 14693 14463 14736 14736 15069 15050 14944 15029 14864 14399 0


    Labor Force 2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017 154198 153883

    UE 2011 w/o DW-U-3 9.05% 8.92% 8.83% 8.96% 9.05% 9.18% 9.09% 9.09% 9.08% 9.01% 8.64% #DIV/0!

    UE 2011 with DW 9.70% 9.59% 9.43% 9.60% 9.59% 9.82% 9.82% 9.73% 9.76% 9.64% 9.36% #DIV/0!

    2011 U-6 rate % 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2 16.5 16.2 15.6

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    21 straight months of private sector growth. March 2010 - Present


    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the
    Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
    1-Month Net Change
    Series Id: CES0500000001
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Super Sector: Total private
    Industry: Total private
    NAICS Code: -
    Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
    Years: 2009 to 2011


    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2009 -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 94 261 219 241 99 75 173 72 220 117 140

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    21 straight months of private sector growth. March 2010 - Present


    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the
    Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
    1-Month Net Change
    Series Id: CES0500000001
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Super Sector: Total private
    Industry: Total private
    NAICS Code: -
    Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
    Years: 2009 to 2011


    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2009 -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 94 261 219 241 99 75 173 72 220 117 140
    Apparently it doesn't bother you that the cost of generating positive private sector job growth that still has kept the number below what he "inherited" but because it is a liberal economic policy that generated these numbers, it is ok. What you fail to ignore is that 4.5 trillion has been added to the debt and a President that won the office with about 53% of the popular vote now has a JAR of 42% according to Gallup. That means he has lost 11% of his support. most apparently see what you don't see which is of course the following which includes over 24 million unemployed and under employed Americans plus a million discouraged workers leaving the work force each month and 315,000 dropping out last month. That to a liberal is a success?

    Labor Force 2011 153186 153246 153406 153421 153693 153421 153228 153594 154017 154198 153883

    UE 2011 w/o DW-U-3 9.05% 8.92% 8.83% 8.96% 9.05% 9.18% 9.09% 9.09% 9.08% 9.01% 8.64%

    UE 2011 with DW 9.70% 9.59% 9.43% 9.60% 9.59% 9.82% 9.82% 9.73% 9.76% 9.64% 9.36%

    2011 U-6 rate % 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2 16.5 16.2 15.6
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    How can anyone support this arrogant ass? Anyone believe he will be ranked as one of our top President's?

    60 Minutes Broadcast Edits Out Laughable Obama Claim as 4th Best President | NewsBusters.org

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How can anyone support this arrogant ass?...
    because his two most viable Republican alternatives are a wanna-be Fascist and a Mormon flip-flopper?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    because his two most viable Republican alternatives are a wanna-be Fascist and a Mormon flip-flopper?
    Vs a leftwing socialist with zero management experience? you are entitled to your opinion but the Obama results indicate that either would be better than what we have now.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Vs a leftwing socialist with zero management experience?....
    this is 2011....not 2008.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this is 2011....not 2008.
    And he has learned nothing in the past 3 years, still blaming everyone else and taking credit for that which he did not do, ending war in Iraq. his numbers speak for themselves and those will be on the ballot in 2012. He makes Jimmy Carter look good

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Vs a leftwing socialist with zero management experience? you are entitled to your opinion but the Obama results indicate that either would be better than what we have now.
    He as more experience as President than any other candidate.

    So if you are going to vote on experience.......

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And he has learned nothing in the past 3 years...
    oh, he has learned quite a lot over the last three years. Mostly that the GOP cares more about getting him out of office than helping the country.

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