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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The Senate is very likely to pass into Republican control during the next election. I hope we are smart enough to add to the number of Conservatives. If they are establishment Republicans then we are only marginally better off.
    It is highly unlikely that the House, the Senate, or the WH will pass into conservative hands after the next election, or anytime in the foreseeable future. Now, all of the above could well come under Republican control, probably will, in fact, but the change will be about as momentous as the change from Republican to Democrat control back in '06.

    My prediction is that the growth of government will continue unabated, the debt will continue to grow, illegal immigration will continue, our liberties will still be under attack, and money and partisanship will continue to dominate in Washington.

    When the economy finally begins to turn around, the party in power will cheer and declare that their policies, which really aren't any different from the policies they replaced, are the reason. The party out of power will declare that they started the ball rolling last time they were in power.

    Meanwhile, money and partisanship will ensure that nothing of substance gets passed in Washington.

    Oh, and it will no doubt be colder in December than in July.

    That last prediction is the least certain of any of them.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It is highly unlikely that the House, the Senate, or the WH will pass into conservative hands after the next election, or anytime in the foreseeable future. Now, all of the above could well come under Republican control, probably will, in fact, but the change will be about as momentous as the change from Republican to Democrat control back in '06.

    My prediction is that the growth of government will continue unabated, the debt will continue to grow, illegal immigration will continue, our liberties will still be under attack, and money and partisanship will continue to dominate in Washington.

    When the economy finally begins to turn around, the party in power will cheer and declare that their policies, which really aren't any different from the policies they replaced, are the reason. The party out of power will declare that they started the ball rolling last time they were in power.

    Meanwhile, money and partisanship will ensure that nothing of substance gets passed in Washington.

    Oh, and it will no doubt be colder in December than in July.

    That last prediction is the least certain of any of them.
    A rather pessimistic POV but not unrealistic. There just doesn't seem to be the will to turn things around and few want to look at what's best for the long term strength of the country.

    Americans must act intelligently before there are no other alternatives, they have exhausted all other possibilities, and reality is inevitably forced upon them. The Grecian Formula.

    It's often hyperbole but this next presidential election could genuinely be the most important in the last 100 years. The question is, can the American people recognize the dangers and put their country ahead of their politics?
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A rather pessimistic POV but not unrealistic. There just doesn't seem to be the will to turn things around and few want to look at what's best for the long term strength of the country.

    Americans must act intelligently before there are no other alternatives, they have exhausted all other possibilities, and reality is inevitably forced upon them. The Grecian Formula.

    It's often hyperbole but this next presidential election could genuinely be the most important in the last 100 years. The question is, can the American people recognize the dangers and put their country ahead of their politics?
    Probably not, and it probably doesn't matter so much who is president. The POTUS does have power, but not nearly as much as we seem to think.

    But, the future could be rosier than I've painted it. My cynicism proves wrong as much as 5% of the time.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Really? how do you figure that?
    The details would just confuse you. Let's discuss why it happened next year right after the election.
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 12-15-11 at 09:49 PM.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It is highly unlikely that the House, the Senate, or the WH will pass into conservative hands after the next election, or anytime in the foreseeable future. Now, all of the above could well come under Republican control, probably will, in fact, but the change will be about as momentous as the change from Republican to Democrat control back in '06.
    Now there is a paragraph that one can read and say man this guy is committed to his prediction....heh, heh...but really, the change in '06 if you really look back at it was the start of the slide to where we are now...Um, who was it that took control of the purse again.....It's on the tip of my tongue....Oh, that's right, demo's.

    Now granted, Bush should have used the veto pen more than he did, but to say that it isn't likely that republicans won't take control of the reins again in the WH, and both houses, is at this moment just not in touch with reality.

    My prediction is that the growth of government will continue unabated, the debt will continue to grow, illegal immigration will continue, our liberties will still be under attack, and money and partisanship will continue to dominate in Washington.
    If that is the case then whom ever is in, will find themselves out with the next election. The people are fed up with this.

    When the economy finally begins to turn around, the party in power will cheer and declare that their policies, which really aren't any different from the policies they replaced, are the reason. The party out of power will declare that they started the ball rolling last time they were in power.
    Depends, if the repubs actually reverse the quasi socialist policies of the liberal progressive hoards now occupying office, then there would be good reason to take credit.

    Meanwhile, money and partisanship will ensure that nothing of substance gets passed in Washington.
    And the great uniter in office now has really brought America together?

    Oh, and it will no doubt be colder in December than in July.
    Not if we all continue to drive our SUV's....heh, heh....

    That last prediction is the least certain of any of them.

    None of them seem to carry any real accuracy.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Total distortion on your part, the numbers we see today are better then we could have expected considering what numbers we would have seen without the leadership of President Obama. President Bush had eight years to shape the economy and instead of shaping the economy he engaged in an effort of nation building which he financed by borrowing money from the Chinese.And now the right wing conservatives run by the unofficial conservative leader lobbyist Grover Norquist are doing every thing they can to regain control of the Presidency and the two houses.

    The American people have one chance to salvage the middle class and America in 2012 and that is to vote for President Obama and give him control of the senate and the congress
    Obama had control of the Congress 2009-2010 and we saw what happened thus the Nov. 2010 elections. If you generated the kind of results Obama generated you would have been fired.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Total distortion on your part, the numbers we see today are better then we could have expected considering what numbers we would have seen without the leadership of President Obama.
    That is some crystal ball you have there...So, the best you could have hoped for was an increase in unemployment, uncertainty in the business climate, and some 1.5 million net more people out of work?

    That's "the Hope, and Change" we were waiting for? Really?


    President Bush had eight years to shape the economy and instead of shaping the economy he engaged in an effort of nation building which he financed by borrowing money from the Chinese.
    As we can see clearly in the numbers, the economy started sliding in '06. Now what happened that could effect the economy, and the purse in Washington at that time? Hmmmm....Let's see.....Oh yeah, demo's took over.

    BTW, Obama's spending on social disasterous programs dwarfs anything spent in Afghanistan, Iraq, or all the other deficits combined since the beginning of this country.....

    And now the right wing conservatives run by the unofficial conservative leader lobbyist Grover Norquist are doing every thing they can to regain control of the Presidency and the two houses.
    It's gotta be better than puppet master Soros running things.

    The American people have one chance to salvage the middle class and America in 2012 and that is to vote for President Obama and give him control of the senate and the congress
    What should we re name the country should that happen, because it damned sure won't be America anymore.


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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Regulatory burden is through the roof. Its a big part of why business is having problems committing to expansion, it costs more for them to hire than it does to actually lose business in some cases.



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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    That may be eclipsed by this.....

    This year, many are looking into a brand new rifle or pistol as their top choice for Christmas, and store owners said guns of all shapes and sizes have been flying off the shelves.

    Jake Terry sells guns at the Tackle Box in Fort Smith, and he said the month of December has been the hottest for all types of firearms.

    "As far as Christmas sales, we've definitely noticed an increase," Terry said.

    According to FBI records, background checks for prospective gun buyers have gone up by 32 percent since last year's Black Friday shopping spree. Terry said the trend has been carried out mainly by first time buyers.

    "Everybody seems to be just a little uncertain, and it's kind of better safe than sorry. They want to buy guns and ammunition, just in case," Terry said.

    Read more: Gun Sales Increase For Christmas - Project Economy News Story - KHBS NW Arkansas
    Obama's plan is stimulating the gun industry that's for sure.....


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