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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Notice i am not calling for raising taxes or cutting spending (now).
    So you are adopting the "wait and see" approach?
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    So you are adopting the "wait and see" approach?
    No, not really. We as Americans have been dealt the "wait and see" approach. I would prefer infrastructure stimulus in the tune of at least $1 trillion per year for the next 2 years, but that's not going to happen.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    No, not really. We as Americans have been dealt the "wait and see" approach. I would prefer infrastructure stimulus in the tune of at least $1 trillion per year for the next 2 years, but that's not going to happen.
    You finally got something right.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You finally got something right.
    You must be wondering what that's like?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Your right, the bush tax cuts sure didn't.
    Once the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented, July 2003, they sure did, until Democrats took control of Congress

    2001 137778
    2002 135701
    2003 137417
    2004 138472
    2005 140245
    2006 143150
    2007 146033
    2008 146407

    Looks to me like 9 million jobs created between January 1, 2003 and January 1, 2008. Compare that to Obama's job performance

    2009 142221
    2010 138333
    2011 139323
    Nov 11 140590

    That would be a net loss of 1.6 million

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Once the Bush tax cuts were fully implemented, July 2003, they sure did, until Democrats took control of Congress

    2001 137778
    2002 135701
    2003 137417
    2004 138472
    2005 140245
    2006 143150
    2007 146033
    2008 146407

    Looks to me like 9 million jobs created between January 1, 2003 and January 1, 2008. Compare that to Obama's job performance

    2009 142221
    2010 138333
    2011 139323
    Nov 11 140590

    That would be a net loss of 1.6 million
    You conveniently leave out the massive reduction in public saving. Federal spending increase from about $2 trillion/year in 2002 to about $3 trillion/year in 2008; an increase of 50% in 6 years.

    You can't have it both ways.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Actually, we gained 339,000 jobs last month but 219,000 of them were due to the holiday/winter season
    And we had 315,000 drop out of the labor force with a growing population and had another 1.1 million discouraged workers. The unemployment rate with the discouraged workers is 9.3% and the U-6 unemployment is 15.6%. Don't see many taking victory laps over those numbers.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You believe that folks are going to vote for the Dems next year, because they got a tax cut that amounts to 10 bucks a week?

    It really depends on how the tax cuts are framed doesn’t it? For instance, the reps want the bush tax cuts kept in place, which help the wealthiest, while blocking the tax cut that helps the middle class more.Hhmm...Lottsa fodder their for move on.

    Then we have the rep clown show running for President into.kinda looks like the dems have a pretty good shot of taking the house back as well.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bush had a low rate of 4.5%. How do you explain that?
    That was caused by Clinton, don't you know that? Anything good happens during a republican presidency and it's the democrats who are responsible. Anything bad happen during a democratic presidency and it's the republicans who are responsible. When will you ever learn?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    It really depends on how the tax cuts are framed doesn’t it? For instance, the reps want the bush tax cuts kept in place, which help the wealthiest, while blocking the tax cut that helps the middle class more.Hhmm...Lottsa fodder their for move on.

    Then we have the rep clown show running for President into.kinda looks like the dems have a pretty good shot of taking the house back as well.
    The Bush tax cuts allowed 47% of the income earning households to drop off the tax roles and pay zero in Federal Income Taxes so tell me how that didn't help those people?

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