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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Those who turn a blind eye on the past are doomed to repeat it.


    And yet, Obama still defeats every Republican being thrown against him. Guess most people don't blame him like you do. Then again, you do claim to be smarter than most people.
    Still living in that liberal dream world and fantasy land. You really don't understand percentage change at all but that is ok. The majority get it even if you never will. Obama added 4.5 trillion to the debt in 3 years and still has a net job loss along with a declining labor force. You proud of those results?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

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    I could tell you but you have no interest in hearing the answers
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post

    No English isn't my 2nd language. But with you comprehension is sorely lacking, or maybe you just don't know any better, either way you do show just how our educational system is failing us.
    Hisses the poster who thought I called Clinton a Conservative when I never did. Talk about an acute lack of self-awareness.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post

    How ever I am glad you agree that Clinton then was a idiot, along with the 44 members of the Senate that couldn't figure out a way to stop this bill from being passed.

    Seeing a liberal signed the bill into law, (for you have stated that Clinton wasn't a conservative) that makes it a compromise, and thus a bill of both parties .
    Calling it a compromise may be a fair term, that still doesn't make it Liberal policy.

    The policy was drafted by Conservatives. The policy was sponsored in both the House and Senate by Conservatives. The worst you can say about Clinton on this is that he approved the policy -- but the policy was still Conservative policy.

    Saying otherwise would be like fallaciously calling welfare reform, 'Liberal policy,' because even though that was also drafted and sponsored by Conservatives in Congress, that policy was also signed into law by Clinton. That doesn't make it Liberal policy.
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Still living in that liberal dream world and fantasy land. You really don't understand percentage change at all but that is ok. The majority get it even if you never will. Obama added 4.5 trillion to the debt in 3 years and still has a net job loss along with a declining labor force. You proud of those results?
    Given the horrid conditions he was handed by Bush and given where we are now? $1.4 trillion added to the debt over the prior year, negative 8.9% GDP, 8 million jobs lost in Bush's Great Recession, the worst recession since the Great Depression ... I'd say he's doing an ok job.

    Still, no GOPer beats him next year according to current polling. Guess he's not as bad as you like to think he is.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I could tell you but you have no interest in hearing the answers
    Translation: No point in talking out of your ass.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There was no other option short of simply giving them the money. Securing the bailout funds with stock ownership was the best way to go. It didn't take long to get them to a point where they could do an IPO and reduce government ownership to minority status. Wagoner should have been fired YEARS before GM's fortunes came to a head. That was absolutely a necessary move.

    You can bitch and moan about how it was done, but there is no question that they were goners without the bailout and they are now on the path to profitability. The consequences of failure right at the depths of the recession would have been enormous: far worse than Lehman.
    Ford wasn't a goner. Chrysler? Well, it's now an Italian company, but is still in business. What would have been the downside to letting GM either reorganize or go the way of Studebaker?
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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Ford wasn't a goner. Chrysler? Well, it's now an Italian company, but is still in business. What would have been the downside to letting GM either reorganize or go the way of Studebaker?
    First off, GM reorganizing without government assistance was not an option. The downside to losing GM and Chrysler would have been the loss of over a million jobs, directly and indirectly, a huge shock to the economy at the depths of the recession, and serious blowback that could very well have taken Ford down and had negative effects on all U.S. car and truck manufacturing.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Translation: No point in talking out of your ass.
    It's hilarious anit it?

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post

    It's hilarious anit it?
    Yep, sure is.

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    Re: U.S. Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Declines to 8.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Translation: No point in talking out of your ass.

    Why not?Might clarify things a bit.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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