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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What a ****ing a cop out. "We're the party of cutting spending... oh wait... not REALLY! SEE SEE?? We care!!"

    Of course, we cannot afford MORE social welfare programs, but let's spend that money our great grands kids haven't earned yet.
    Yeah! We need that money for more $300 million fighter planes built for a war that never happened!
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah! We need that money for more $300 million fighter planes built for a war that never happened!
    I call them the "but this time it's different" crowd.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    now if they can just renew the ss cut and pay for it by a surcharge on income over 1MM.
    The SS cut will cost us $265 billion dollars.

    A tax hike on millionaires will get us $21.5 billion.

    Are you going to make up the remaining $243.5 billion ???

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The SS cut will cost us $265 billion dollars.

    A tax hike on millionaires will get us $21.5 billion.

    Are you going to make up the remaining $243.5 billion ???
    i think i've decided that the ss cut should only remain active for those making under 50k. and a freeze on federal salaries, and an across the board fed jobs cut.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think i've decided that the ss cut should only remain active for those making under 50k. and a freeze on federal salaries, and an across the board fed jobs cut.
    WOW, we actually agree.

    I resent the drop in SS contributions since this greatly affects future retirement checks. Pay less now, get less later. I'd rather pay now while I can afford it and get it back after retiring and not working.

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    So you're just to the point of full out admitting to taking from the rich to give to the poor then?

    Strangely enough, I'm actually for the SS cut to expire across the board. Social Security is on extremely shaky ground right now, it needs to be reformed. What it doesn't need is even less money being paid into it while we're still on the hook for all of the paying out.

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think i've decided that the ss cut should only remain active for those making under 50k. and a freeze on federal salaries, and an across the board fed jobs cut.
    Are you going to also reduce the ss benefits for those under 50k too?

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Strangely enough, I'm actually for the SS cut to expire across the board. Social Security is on extremely shaky ground right now, it needs to be reformed. What it doesn't need is even less money being paid into it while we're still on the hook for all of the paying out.

    I also think an across the board mandated federal jobs cut to be incredibly stupid and harmful to the economy. Yes, lets just voluntarily kick up the unemployment numbers blindly in the name of compromise. I have no issue cutting federal jobs. Get an outside firm to do an agency by agency review to determine how many positions could be cut and still run effectively, and then go with those numbers rather than placing an arbitrary number on it.

    Additionally, if you're cutting 200,000 federal workers jobs without some kind of targetted independent review from the top down, you're likely going to be seeing primarily low end individuals cut and not your top end beuracracy. The lower end of the scale are typically your individuals who, unlike those higher up that have been in the government for some time, are making less than their private sector equivilents. With cuts you are then increasing their work load to cover the loss of man power while combining it with a freeze making it even less attractive for those who survive the cuts to stay in the job rather than begin to look at the private sector. How about, instead of a pay freeze, you simply freeze step increases during that time period. This still saves significant money and removes the "automatic raise" type of situation that exists. However, it still allows there to be corrections based on the economic situation of the country, such as Cost of Living and inflation increases, as well as individualized work quality based awarded raises that are significantly smaller than the step raises that can occur. This would still save money while not completely locking federal employees into a low pay while having additional work heaped onto them.

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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Are you going to also reduce the ss benefits for those under 50k too?
    no, why? ss is already a regressive tax. in fact, we should just up the tax cutoff to 250k.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: AP Sources: House GOP bill renews jobless benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The SS cut will cost us $265 billion dollars.
    What's the SS cut? How does cutting SS cost us money?
    I may be wrong.

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